What ski requires the least amount of fin adjustments?

DavidPDavidP Posts: 151 Baller
John, Thank you for the latest ski review. Fellow Ballers, I'm wondering if you have a favorite ski you tested that performed well (35-38off 34mph) and your final fin adjustments were closest to stock?
David Panneton - LakePort Water Ski Club, formerly known as Muddy Waters

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  • scotchipmanscotchipman Posts: 3,876
    I have found that the Goode Nano OneXT works very well at stock, can be a little tricky getting it at stock since Goode measures with Jaws and a slot caliper.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 25,040 Administrator
    edited May 2014
    @DavidP‌ Quest or Vapor I guess. All modern skis need to be set up right. If you can get to bone stock that should work for any ski.

    @scotchipman‌ David is asking for not tricky and that ski is very sensitive.

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  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,847
    The most stable ski can become sensitive based on the wackadoodle strapped to the top of it.
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  • TannerTanner Posts: 5 Baller
    I found a Connelly Hook at a garage sale and put a Rockerblock R45 on it. Haven't had to tweak it yet. Thinking I might try a Reflex on it next.
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  • Ed_JohnsonEd_Johnson Posts: 1,801
    I found the Mapple 6.0 to be the first ski I ever had that actually worked with Factory numbers..I have never had a Goode or HO come close....Andy also updates the numbers, published Chris Parrish's numbers, and they worked great.
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  • scotchipmanscotchipman Posts: 3,876
    @Horton, I don't see where @DavidP is trying to avoid tricky but that could very well be possible. I have tried lots of different fin settings on the XT and right back at stock is where it works the best for me. To clarify the tricky part of setting up a Goode fin at stock is if you don't own or have access to a slot caliper, if you do have a slot caliper Goode become the EASIEST of them all to set at stock especially for those less experienced with using a caliper.

    I agree with the Quest being another good ski that works well at stock but getting the proper DFT with the flat or needle method WILL be tricky. Also measuring a fin length with tips is a little more tricky than measuring with jaws in the hands of the less experienced.
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  • ggincogginco Posts: 100 Baller
    @Horton, I'm curious about your assessment of the XT being "finicky" and "very sensitive". How tall and heavy are you?
  • HortonHorton Posts: 25,040 Administrator
    5'9 190

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  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,192 Mega Baller
    I have to agree with @scotchipman‌ on the Nano One and XT ending up closer to stock than most.
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  • CraigCraig Posts: 109 Baller
    edited May 2014
    I think what @DavidP is asking can be rephrased as:

    What ski can you move the fin by some amount (say 0.010") in any dimension and feel the change the least relative to it's original fin position?

    Is that right, @DavidP?
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 5,899 Mega Baller
    @Craig's interpretation is interesting and fairly different. But to the literal wording of the OP:

    I have ended up at almost exactly factory fin settings on most of skis, including 9100, 9900, and Nano One. On the 9600 I deviated a bit with a shorter fin. On the 9400, I never found fin settings I really liked.

    So I'd say most of the time you can use factory settings on a Goode and be pretty comfortable there. The N1, however, is fairly sensitive to binding placement, both front and back foot. I believe/assume that this is because of the large rocker, which exaggerates an instability if you're not at your center point.
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  • 6balls6balls Posts: 4,780 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Historically I have felt the D3's have been money out of the box. I'm on a Razor right now and it took some serious effort (nearly gave up) to get it dialed but then loved it. On my 20 years of KD and D3 prior...it was right out of the box money with only tiny adjustments to fine tune. Can't speak for the most recent crop to D3's as have not skied them...but will demo them when time to change skis.
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  • DavidPDavidP Posts: 151 Baller
    Thank you for the responses guys. @6balls phrased it best "money out of the box". I don't have a lot of time on the water to test out different fin settings so choosing a ski that is money out of the box would probably be good for me.
    David Panneton - LakePort Water Ski Club, formerly known as Muddy Waters
  • gregygregy Posts: 2,425 Mega Baller
    Mapple 6.0. First time out it felt a little strange. I went back and re measured and the front boot was a little forward. Set it stock and hadn't changed it.
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,847
    @DavidP The problem is that what is money out of the box for @Horton may not be money for you. And vice versa.
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  • scotchipmanscotchipman Posts: 3,876
    I agree with @6balls that historically D3's ski great right out of the box from the factory. The D3 factory also does a great job of setting up their fins at factory settings which is not always the case from many of the other ski companies.
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  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,192 Mega Baller
    edited May 2014
    One thing to watch with D3s is that they don't snug the adjusting screws up to the fin prior to shipping. So it's possible that a small knock could bump the fin out of adjustment. My last few have arrived pretty close to spec--not perfect, but pretty close. I think my last two Nano Ones were the closest to perfect I've ever seen out of the box. That said, I'd NEVER ski on a new ski without measuring it up first. I've never seen one come out of a box right on the money--not yet at least.
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  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 2,080 Mega Baller
    Connelly Concept. Three adjustment choices. Forward, Neutral, or Back. No depth, no length. DFT only, and the beauty is "No calipers needed." Couldn't be simpler, and by definition "requires" the fewest fin adjustments!
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 25,040 Administrator
    @ShaneH‌ if a ski is not pretty good with stock settings that is a factory fail.

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