Just curious

Why is obrien setting the G5 up with the wing, blade side towards ski?
Ron Smith Invermere BC Canada. Ski at Rons lake Ta Ta creek BC.

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  • ThePantsManCanThePantsManCan Posts: 443 Baller
    I have 2 Conquers, and both were shipped to me with the wing blades down and away from the ski. Something tells me its purely a mistake, or could have something to do with the ski hunting for an edge. My guess is uneducated, but experienced? Is that possible?
    60% of the time, it works.... All the time.
  • GOODESkierGOODESkier Posts: 1,107 Crazy Baller
    When you have non skiers working the assembly line in China........ Just kidding, but I bet the workers are not industry involved and are going by the training manual.
    2003 Nautique 196 LE Star Gazer & ZBox - GOODE NANO OneXT 66.75" - Powershell 5 (LFF) - Tournament PB: 2 Balls @ 39.5' OFF (34.2 MPH) on 7/18/2015 at BIG DAWG BROHO!
  • colo_skiercolo_skier Posts: 779 Solid Baller
    I think a few Australians must have been employed in the quality department.
    Not sure I know what I am doing. The boat goes I follow. Trying to perfect the deep water start. Squirrel!
    Hortonauskier
  • SMITTYSMITTY Posts: 63 Baller
    did some inquires and obrien is recommending that the wing be mounted blades toward the ski.
    Ron Smith Invermere BC Canada. Ski at Rons lake Ta Ta creek BC.
  • ThePantsManCanThePantsManCan Posts: 443 Baller
    Did they give a reason?
    60% of the time, it works.... All the time.
  • whitem71whitem71 Posts: 22 Baller
    Have had countless discussions about this with friends....surely blade closest to water is best?
  • mwetskiermwetskier Posts: 1,329 Mega Baller
    @whitem71 -no one knows better than your friends. oh wait -may be kris la point knows a little bit better than your friends. back in mid -1990's he wrote about fin placement and imo it should be included in the tech articles on this site but so far isnt. somebody alert @Horton.

    basically it seems that wing placement is entirely ski or skier specific and there is no one ' best ' position. so the factory recommended placement of the wing is probably what they think produces the best results for their particular ski. heres what la point said -


    Wing Location by Kris LaPoint:

    Where you place the wing on the fin makes a big difference–no, make that a huge difference. Even on the same ski, you may position it differently than another skier would place it. It takes plenty of trial and error to find the optimum location, but it’s worth the effort. Here are some general guidelines for adjusting your wing position:

    Moving the wing toward the rear (putting the trailing edge of the wing about 0.5 in. From the rear of the fin blade) pushes the ski out in front of you in the turn and makes the ski finish the arc more quickly. This is especially good if your ski tends to finish behind you at the end of the turn.

    Moving the wing forward, to about middle of the fin blade makes the ski stay in the turn longer and helps keep it underneath you while finishing the turn.

    Moving the wing up the blade, toward the bottom of the ski, lets the ski roll up on edge easier in the pre-turn and may slow the ski slightly more than a lower placement.

    Lowering the wing placement provides more stability. The ski feels more locked in and is also harder to roll up on edge during the pre-turn.

    Wing angle is a totally separate issue. If you are using a wing, it has got to have some downward angle. The minimum is about 5 degrees and the maximum about 124 degrees. Common knowledge says the more angle, the better the ski slows down and the more drag the ski encounters while traveling across wakes. I don’t disagree with this, but wing angle plays another important role–it also affects how the ski turns. More wing angle promotes rounded constant-radius turns, while less angle yields a turn that’s slower to start with but very hard to finish. Most skiers like the characteristics of more angle on their off-side turns, and less angle on their on-side turns.

    Like a lot of things, with fine tuning your ski you must find the best compromise. Spend a lot of time trying new locations and angles you think might not work. You may be surprised how much difference it will make.

    (cut and pasted from an old online magazine article)
    WishSMITTYskialexwhitem71
  • rockdogrockdog Posts: 525 Crazy Baller
    At least you think you're funny @colo_skier .
    allycat
  • allycatallycat Posts: 190 Baller
    edited April 2015
    we build great stuff in australia like nothing now days ??? not good coming from an old boiler maker maintenance
    bitch now days
  • colo_skiercolo_skier Posts: 779 Solid Baller
    I guess people didn't understand the reference to the wing being upside down. In these were meant for sales below the equator. Nothing to do with abilities or nationalities. Thank goodness people didn't see my comment about the Irish Olympic swimming trials.
    Not sure I know what I am doing. The boat goes I follow. Trying to perfect the deep water start. Squirrel!
  • rockdogrockdog Posts: 525 Crazy Baller
    Fair enough @colo_skier.
  • rawlyrawly Posts: 464 Solid Baller
    @colo_skier did drinking beat waterskiing into the Olympics ?
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