OB4 News-I just got this email from Mike Mosley

CommuterfisherCommuterfisher Posts: 83 Baller
edited October 2015 in Other Stuff
Date:Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:06 PM
Subject:OB4 Systems

To All OB4 Systems customers,


I, am no longer acting as an agent, employee, representative or in any function or capacity of OB4 Systems, at the request of my investors. Though I do still own a portion of the company. They think they can promote and market the system I developed and the company I originated better than I can. Unfortunately they have little knowledge of the sport of competitive water skiing, nor the use of the system that I have been using for twenty-two years. While I am more than happy to answer questions about your use of the system, I can no longer represent that I am acting in any way on behalf of OB4. Nor can I provide you with any parts. You can reach me at the above email address, and not through OB4.

Thank you for your support.

Mike Mosley
The Designer and Originator of the OB4 system


  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,317 Mega Baller
    Investors? Seems like a lot of drama for a product with the potential to sell maybe in the hundreds of units.
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,317 Mega Baller
    Only takes one product liability lawsuit to wipe out whatever the profit is on .5 million in sales.
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
  • Bruce_ButterfieldBruce_Butterfield Posts: 1,401 Mega Baller
    @OB1.....and hitting the ground without a runway....sucks.
    I'm Ancient. WTH do I know?
  • newbnewb Posts: 14 Baller
    drama's !! Hope the company stays afloat - I love the product. I wouldn't be skiing without it. I think I may have got them a few sales on the weekend just gone...
  • gregygregy Posts: 2,478 Mega Baller
    If you consider your market world wide I think there could be a fairly big market. Might be best to have a dealer network and train dealer. You could get some bigger ski schools to help market. Maybe a system for wakeboarding. I know some wakeboarder that have done some major ankle or knee damage.
  • newbnewb Posts: 14 Baller
    I'll take the Aussie dealership thanks - travel around showing off the product - sounds so easy

  • E_TE_T Posts: 583 extraterrestrial trouble maker
    @newb sounds easy. But try covering your costs with that low profit margin.
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  • mmosley899mmosley899 Posts: 544 Water Ski Industry Professional
    @kfennell that is not what I told you.
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  • thagerthager Posts: 4,343 Mega Baller
    @OB1 Your takeoffs will always equal your landings one way or another. However, takeoff is optional. Landing is required!
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,211 Mega Baller
    I talked with Mike numerous times, on the phone, in email, and in person at Nationals. He was always cordial, helpful, and honest -- including about the limitations of the current OB4 system. It's hard to imagine how Kevin had the experience he did.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,211 Mega Baller
    As an inventor myself, it's always sad to this too-often-played story. The innovator very often sees a business as a way to provide funds to continue to innovate. The investor very often sees a business as a way to monetize a static product. I believe we all lose when this dichotomy forces a rift.

    However, I still recommend the OB4 system as the currently safest commercial binding system.

    And I look forward to what Mike may bring to the world of waterskiing next!
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • AndreAndre Posts: 1,025 Crazy Baller
    Almost lost a Reflex shell taking it off sitting on the back of the boat after a set.
    And i m sure my friend Exos would sink if not attached to his ski and drop in the lake.
    Lost a 3 sets old handle this summer while changing handles in the water (yes i m that stupid!).
    Shit happens!
    Sorry for both situations here...
  • HortonHorton Posts: 26,530 Administrator
    I am not sure this is the place to talk about the internal dispute at OB4. Water ski industry dirty laundry might be entertaining but I think it is primarily a negative topic.

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  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,211 Mega Baller
    @Horton I do think the announcement is worthwhile -- it's news people may want to know. Discussion of it is another matter, and obviously up to you.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • thagerthager Posts: 4,343 Mega Baller
    @OB1 Forgot about that angle! You are right,but the aircraft did land though not softly
    Stir vigorously then leave!
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  • jipster43jipster43 Posts: 1,414 Crazy Baller
    @Horton I am particularly drawn to products that have a connection to BOS. OB4's are less appealing without a baller standing behind them.
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