Any hull improvement between 04-07 Response

SDNAH2OSKIERSDNAH2OSKIER Posts: 290 Baller
Found a decent deal on an 07 Response and wondered if there were any significant, or really any changes to the hull between these years? I think they both the SV23 diamond correct? Wondering if there is any excuse to move up a couple years? Actually for my sister. TIA
Doug Roberts San Diego, CA ski rating: 2 balls

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  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 2,084 Mega Baller
    edited March 2016
    If it is the 07 Response LXi (walk through open bow), then I had thought there was an improvement after 05 or 06. If it is the 07 Response LX (step over open bow), then there was no significant change.

    The 07 in either boat would still be a good choice. And, I believe the 07 can be converted to Zero Off. Earlier years cannot.
    The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.
  • DWDW Posts: 1,761 Crazy Baller
    @SDNAH2OSKIER: Are you talking LX or LXI, those two have different hulls. The 03-06 is considered the Gen 1 LXI & the 07 & newer is Gen 2. Gen 1's tend to be considered the crème and do have a better barefoot wake if that is a consideration. If an LX, there is less differentiation in the hulls across that time span but there are subtle wake differences
  • SDNAH2OSKIERSDNAH2OSKIER Posts: 290 Baller
    LXI
    Doug Roberts San Diego, CA ski rating: 2 balls
  • SDNAH2OSKIERSDNAH2OSKIER Posts: 290 Baller
    Its a sweet boat, she already has a pretty sweet 05 LXI, but the newer one has half the hours and if there is hull "improvement" we will take any excuse to bolster a purchase decision.
    Doug Roberts San Diego, CA ski rating: 2 balls
  • rodltg2rodltg2 Posts: 1,051 Crazy Baller
    I think it's roomier than 05
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 754 Crazy Baller
    It's roomier than the '05 for sure, and way less likely to take a roller over the bow. Many think the '07+ LXi was a step back in terms of wake quality.
    SDNAH2OSKIEREd_Obermeierinland
  • SDNAH2OSKIERSDNAH2OSKIER Posts: 290 Baller
    @UWSkier thank you, appreciate the insight. I would like the room and the improved bow performance. She is is on a river and needs neither. She is a diehard slalom skier and wake quality is crucial. Btw just came back from watching sdsu send UW packing from NIT tourney. Sorry
    Doug Roberts San Diego, CA ski rating: 2 balls
  • davemacdavemac Posts: 445 Baller
    I'm a bit bias...owning an 03 Lxi, but definitely prefer my wake to the 07 Lxi I occasionally ski behind.
    inland
  • mlangemlange Posts: 160 Baller
    I had a '04 RXLi and now have a TXi. Skipped over the '07 - '11 RLXi. There are two advantages I can see to the '07 - '11 RLXi. As UW Skier stated... there is more room and you don't need to be as careful about dunking the nose when you have people up front. You have to be on your toes with the '03 - '06 RLXi. Secondly, if you use a boom on the '03 - '06 RXLi you need a couple of extensions to get outside of the chine spray. Because the windshield comes back further the boom comes off the side of the further back so you need to get further out to avoid the spray.

    Aside from that the '04 RXLi was a dream.

    Mike
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 754 Crazy Baller
    @SDNAH2OSKIER Don't be sorry. THE UW is in the Sweet 16 for the 5th time in 6 years. The second UW stinks at basketball. :smiley:
  • SDNAH2OSKIERSDNAH2OSKIER Posts: 290 Baller
    Haha, I wondered, When I was looking at your emoticon thought is was purple and if it was in fact of Univ. of Wash. or Wisconsin.
    Doug Roberts San Diego, CA ski rating: 2 balls
  • SDNAH2OSKIERSDNAH2OSKIER Posts: 290 Baller
    So I spoke to the factory rep and he said there were very minor changes in the hull and that statistically they were identical and that only an advanced skier would be likely to notice.
    Doug Roberts San Diego, CA ski rating: 2 balls
  • DWDW Posts: 1,761 Crazy Baller
    @SDNAH2OSKIER: I suggest you demo the boat in question before the purchase to make sure in yours/her mind the wakes are what you are looking for and you get the ROI you are looking for.
  • SDNAH2OSKIERSDNAH2OSKIER Posts: 290 Baller
    @DW, even with a dry suit that is probably not possible. I believe the boat is sold though. It was a good enough deal and I have enough history with Malibus to buy it without a check ride. But, for me, it was too far to go, deal with logistics to make it work for me and my sister isnt super motivated. It was cheap enough I may have had a nice boat for the summer and made a few bucks. Oh well
    Doug Roberts San Diego, CA ski rating: 2 balls
  • JoepruncJoeprunc Posts: 236 Baller
    Not sure what speeds your sister skis at, but from my research last year I've heard the 07-11 wake at slower speeds and -15' off to be larger than the 03-06 LXI. I think faster and shorter the wake is comparable with less spray.
    I love my 06
    inland
  • Chad_ScottChad_Scott Posts: 416 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    No changes between those hulls. Changes occurred with the introduction of the TXI. LXI was a great boat. Put about 75 pounds in the nose. Will help with tracking and wake characteristics
    Texas6scotchipman6balls
  • Peter_BPeter_B Posts: 22 Baller
    Just to clarify, as others posted, the 03-06 Lxi was one boat, the 07-11 Lxi was a completely new boat, and the 12-up TXi was another large change. (current generation) The 03-06 Lxi was an outgrowth of the Response and Response LX, using the same Diamond hull and just making it wider and longer. Great all-around boat. The '07-11 greatly improved the ride quality in chop, less (almost no) water over the bow, and good shortline ski wake. Long line length ski wake was debatably not as good. '12-up TXi fixed all that, by keeping the good ride and little bow attitude change for a dry ride, and improved the hull to give all skiers a great slalom wake. Noticeable change. Other item paid attention to was the '12-up is very much a driver's boat, with better windshield, dash and driver ergonomics.
    The '03-'06 LXI was the best longline barefoot table if using for multidiscipline, but the TXi ('12-up) is the best slalom of the line up.

    On a side note, the Response (closed bow) is still arguably one of the great buoy tractors for course-only use, such as private lakes.

    pb
    davemacahopkinsTXiinland
  • SDNAH2OSKIERSDNAH2OSKIER Posts: 290 Baller
    edited March 2016
    Thanks Peter_B!!
    Doug Roberts San Diego, CA ski rating: 2 balls
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