D3 ARC vs. Radar Vapor

sunvalleylawsunvalleylaw Posts: 1,131 Crazy Baller
edited August 2016 in Skis Fins Bindings
Been a Denny Kidder made ski guy since I was a teen, so really leaning ARC. But, just seeing what people think. I may have the chance to try both back to back, if things work out in the next few weeks. Maybe. Of course that would be best. But, fun to ask anyway. Anyone been on both?

Based on talking to a couple reps, blue is most probably my flavor of ARC.

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  • skibrainskibrain Posts: 916 Crazy Baller
    edited August 2016
    This thread started to discuss this:

    vapor-16-skier-d3-arc-demo
    sunvalleylaw
  • sunvalleylawsunvalleylaw Posts: 1,131 Crazy Baller
    Thanks @skibrain , did not find that thread searching. @OB1 , I am hoping to do just that. Hopefully on the same day and same water behind the same boat.
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  • DragoDrago Posts: 911 Crazy Baller
    I know a guy who demoed an arc, went back to his radar, and bought the arc a few days after
    sunvalleylawWaterSkier12
  • sunvalleylawsunvalleylaw Posts: 1,131 Crazy Baller
    And, after reading that thread, it looks like the similarities outweigh the differences and there is nothing for it but to try both out. :)
  • sunvalleylawsunvalleylaw Posts: 1,131 Crazy Baller
    One thing to remember, my top tourney speed will be 34, so that may make a difference. I will test at that max speed. And use my own bindings.
  • cragginshredcragginshred Posts: 676 Crazy Baller
    My ski buddy just got a Blue Arc and I plan to get a 2017 Vapor pro in the next week so I have the opportunity to try both and will keep you posted!
    Vapor pro 2017
    sunvalleylaw
  • skimtbskimtb Posts: 38 Baller
    Anyone else have comments / comparisons on these two skis? I can't get the link from skibrain to work (could be old?)
  • hogexpresshogexpress Posts: 100 Baller
    I tried the Vapor and ended up staying with my D3. I thought the Vapor was faster behind the boat but i could never get my turns consistent. I've been a long time D3 fan but have tried various skies along the way and always come back to D3. I'm currently on the Blue ARC. The only weak spot for me on that ski is the on-side. I have to be alittle more patient with it. The off-side is automatic no matter what i do. I'm a 34 mph skier.
    Keith Sims - South Carolina
    WaterSkier12
  • hogexpresshogexpress Posts: 100 Baller
    BTW, I have good deal on a 66" D3 Quest 45 on SIA.
    Keith Sims - South Carolina
  • skibrainskibrain Posts: 916 Crazy Baller
    @skimtb Sorry for the link fail.

    Lots of threads on both skis with a few direct comparisons. I looked quickly just now and didn't see the link I thought I was making in 2016.

    I would demo each if possible. Radar skiers seem to prefer the evolution of the Radar skis. D3 skiers (me) tend to prefer the evolution of D3 skis. For me, the Lithium Vapor worked when I was patient and technically precise. The D3 felt like a larger performance envelope - more forgiving, so I spent less time thinking about my ski and more time skiing if that makes sense. So I skied more consistently and confidently.

    But many have had really similar comments about the Radar.
    WaterSkier12
  • SivotaSivota Posts: 81 Baller
    I am definitely with the try if you can before you buy skiers.
    I don't want to confuse you, but I tried an ARC [blue] and a 2016 Radar Lithium Vapor - coming off an older D3 Fusion. I ended up with the with the Omni Syndicate [a gift - see elsewhere on BoS]. My performance improved significantly and now I am a 34 mph skier. The extra width help without any apparent [to me anyway] decrease in performance.
    Good luck whichever way you go.
    bogboy
  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 923 Mega Baller
    Both fantastic skis. I have run the same ball counts on all, the yellow arc, and the17 and 18 Vapors. They all carry speed through the turn well. The 18 Vapor took me more time to get set up but once I got it, it has been my choice, bar none. Offside is automatic and fast. The Vapor, especially the 18 stays tip down better than any ski I’ve ridden, which, I think, is its key to speed.
    You can’t go wrong with any of them
  • ellenmellenm Posts: 18 Baller
    I've been on both and skied both in tournaments in 2017. I like both but am sticking with the Vapor;
  • mbabiashmbabiash Posts: 324 Baller
    You really shouldn’t overlook the NRG. I came off of the 16,17, and 18 vapor. Tried the NRG and loved it!
    aupatkingEd_Johnsonsantangelo
  • kckc Posts: 71 Baller
    What @mbabiash said! I’ve skied various year Vapors and both blue and yellow ARCs. The NRG is hands down my favorite.
    Bill22Ed_Johnson
  • skimtbskimtb Posts: 38 Baller
    Thanks All. Demo would be best, but I’m looking used, which makes that a bit trickier. I was solid radar then solid d3, now leaning back to radar. I’ve been on a sixam 2 Point and had no issues. I think both are good skis and I’ll just adjust to either and ski.
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