RS1 Bindings

rodaroda Posts: 73 Baller
edited May 2010 in Skis Fins Bindings
I just bought a pair of leftover RS1 bindings and have some questions about how the plate should mount. At the shop they gave me small t-nut style washers for the front and rear and he said to put them on the underside of the plate. When installed this way and the pan-head screws snugged down I don't see how it allows the plate to slide. I would expect that there should be a nylon washer under the screw head or the nut should be on the top allowing the nylon on the bottom of the plate to rest on the ski.
Does anyone have a good close up picture of how it should be set-up or a diagram from a manual? The Radar site has no info that I can find.

Thanks.

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  • RogerRoger Posts: 1,530 Crazy Baller
    The washers go on the ski with the collar down. The plate slides down over the neck of the washer and then the screw goes though a cup washer then through the plate, then through the t-nut as you call it washer (this is for the front). In the back, it's the same except no cup washer as you use the little plate instead. If you ski has D3 spacing in the rear, the screws will go through the outside holes in the little plate, else they will be in the slots further in. I will see about taking a good shot tomorrow and posting for you. with the middle screws not installed, the plate should slide forward and back fairly easily.


     
    Roger B. Clark - Okeeheelee skier. Senior driver, Senior Judge
  • rodaroda Posts: 73 Baller
    Thanks Roger, do you leave the front & rear screws a little loose?

    I that think instead of using the washers on the top they gave me large flat pan-head style screws.
  • Chuck_DickeyChuck_Dickey Posts: 1,459 Crazy Baller
    Tighten all the screws. The plate should still slide/flex in the slots with all screws tight.  Check them before each set just to be safe.
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,030 Mega Baller
    my rear screws tend to loosen after every set, so chuck's absolutely correct about checking tightness before skiing the next set
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • RogerRoger Posts: 1,530 Crazy Baller
    roda, if you only have screws and no washers to go under them, you do not have all the required hardware. There should be 4 cup style washers (similar to the ones that come with HO boots), one sort of C-shaped bar for the rear, 4 t-nut style bushings and usually 4 nylon washers to go between the bushings and the ski. If you don't have the proper hardware as described, call Radar and get it as you will not be able to mount the plate properly.


    I've seen a few people mount the plate solid without the ability to slide and I think that's a mistake and will hurt the performance of your ski.
    Roger B. Clark - Okeeheelee skier. Senior driver, Senior Judge
  • RogerRoger Posts: 1,530 Crazy Baller
    Richard, what kind of ski are you on? I've had my RS-1 system mounted to several skis and the screws never loosen for me...
    Roger B. Clark - Okeeheelee skier. Senior driver, Senior Judge
  • davemacdavemac Posts: 447 Baller
     


    Check out the following webpage.  In the top right (red) box, click to access the pdf for "Plate Mounting Instructions".  There is a diagram showing all the applicable hardware.....


    www.radarskis.com/boot_tech.html
  • DekeDeke Posts: 370 Baller
    edited May 2010
    Check out the instructions in DavMac's post above. If your plate won't slide with screws tight (and middle screws removed) you may have the wrong standoff washers. The early Sequence Plates were thinner than the present plate and consequently used a thinner standoff. The old standoff washers do not work with the new plate.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 1,530 Crazy Baller
    edited May 2010
    Perfect! Use the PDF instructions above. Here are the photos I took this morning to give you a visual idea of what the parts look like unmounted and mounted:




    The parts for the front of the plate:





     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     




    The parts for the center of the plate:





     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


    The parts for the rear of the plate:





     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


    The plate is sandwiched between these parts in the front:





     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


    It looks like this assembled on the ski:





     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


    Rear plate assembled on the ski:





     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


    Center screw, no bushing under the plate, just the screw and washer above:





     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


    Rear plate from above, bushings under plate, horseshoe plate above, no washers under screw heads:





     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


    With the PDF and these, you should be able to figure it out. Let us know if you need additional help.


     
    Roger B. Clark - Okeeheelee skier. Senior driver, Senior Judge
  • rodaroda Posts: 73 Baller
    Wow, great stuff guys. Thanks. I do not have any of the nylon washers. The screws they gave me have heads that are large and flat so they eliminate the need for the cone type washer. I will put a thin nylon washer under them anyway to allow for more movement when tight than the metal washer to metal plate would allow.

    I'm all set, thanks again.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 1,530 Crazy Baller
    I don't know if they still use the nylon washers or not and I don't see them in the PDF. As for the flathead screws and no cup washers, I would expect that to work ok.
    Roger B. Clark - Okeeheelee skier. Senior driver, Senior Judge
  • D WoltersD Wolters Posts: 139 Baller
    Roger,


    I just got a rebuilt kit from Radar a month ago. It came with all (same type) the parts your showing
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,030 Mega Baller
    edited May 2010
    Roger - Good work on the photos. I'm on a 66" Strada, and I don't like to overtighten things, so that may be why they begin to loosen.  In my business I see all kinds of problems that develop due to excessive torque being applied to fasteners.  It's a good idea to always check your equipment prior to "booting up".
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • 454SS454SS Posts: 169 Baller
    My RS-1's were shipped already on my ski but I took it all apart anyway no nylon washers, and no cup washers in the middle either, still skis great anyway don't know what the nylon washers would really be for other then maybe not scratching the ski up as much if they come loose.
  • HO 410HO 410 Posts: 351 Baller
    I'm sure the nylon washers aren't critical, but they are darned convenient. The ones I have grip the screw threads so you can put the whole screw, washer, and standoff assembly together and then hold it together with the nylon washer. It really speeds assembly.
    Nikon D80, 50mm f 1.8, Tokina 12-24mm... Sorry, wrong forum. Josh T.
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,030 Mega Baller
    The nylon washers also help to keep the stand-off from getting "locked" to the insert. If you really crank the screws tight, you will sometimes make the insert come loose from the ski upon removal.
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
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