Keeping a boat straight

keithh2oskierkeithh2oskier Posts: 295 Solid Baller
edited June 28 in Technique & Theory
All of this talk on what boats you can and cannot keep straight got me thinking about getting video of the boat to learn from. It was a long time ago when I got my drivers rating and after stopping tournaments after college I long since lost my rating.

My wife is now my primary driver and would love to get video to help coach her to being a better driver. However our site does not allow for a camera to be mounted on the shore in a path directly down the course. Basically the only place I could mount the camera would be on the boat itself. Given the limitation of the boat mounted course camera is there an ideal place to put one? Windshield with the pylon in view? Pylon directly? Back of the boat? Facing forward? I have a SN 196 if it matters.

Or should I just not bother opening that can of worms of taping my wife's driving and just keep my mouth shut and live the motto you can be right or you can be happy, pick one...
ToddA
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  • B_SB_S Posts: 163 Baller
    Don't even! Maybe casually mention, for information purposes only, that she can see where she been in the course by checking the prop wash in the mirror.
    MillerTime38
  • keithh2oskierkeithh2oskier Posts: 295 Solid Baller
    Ha, thanks @Justin_C and @B_S. That was just the confirmation I needed to tell me I am out of my mind.
  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,031 MM Trick Skier / Eccentric Person
    I skied at Berkeley Aquatic Park in the 70s. I had a completely different take on where this thread was going based on the title.
    Mateo Vargasbajajerrym
  • ToddLToddL Posts: 2,701 Mega Baller
    If you ever go there... nah... just don't. Nevermind. She's an excellent driver. She allows you the opportunity to ski when no one else is available to drive. Damn wonderful woman. Be thankful.
    -- The future of skiing depends upon welcoming novice skiers regardless of age to our sport.
    MuskokaKybraindamageJustin_C
  • ShererSkierShererSkier Posts: 62 Baller
    Ha, yeah your probably better off saying how the course seems so much easier with her driving ;)
    eyepeelerMuskokaKybraindamage
  • mwetskiermwetskier Posts: 1,195 Crazy Baller
    one advantage to the foamex type cylindrical boat guys is they make a loud thump when the boat hits them so a driver will learn pretty quickly on their own how to split the guides.
  • MDB1056MDB1056 Posts: 28 Baller
    WOW! Talk about unanimous. While I'm new here I've still not seen any topic where Aall the commests are so completely agreed. Just erase this whoole thread lie it never even happened. Yes - be grateful you have a driver that lives there with you!
  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,031 MM Trick Skier / Eccentric Person
    You guys are totally sexist. Elaine Bush is one of the best rated drivers ever. Even if she's some guy's wife. My wife is not a rated driver but can hold centerline perfectly in our boat. Women, like some men, will work to make their driving better.

    Don't be an ass and single her out but offer tools (like a camera that everyone uses) to make her better and she'll appreciate it. As will the men who drive you and get feedback.

    Now I'll screw it up, make sure she goes straight to the kitchen after driving you.

    Eric
    BooFam-manMillerTime38Skoot1123
  • bassfooterbassfooter Posts: 131 Baller
    @keithh2oskier - keep in mind the big thing is that she's a safe driver. Beyond that, if you can arrange it, ride while she pulls a friend and see how she does. Or have a knowledgeable friend ride along while she pulls you, and report their observations. Sounds underhanded, but it's a way of making sure she's not learning bad habits. How's that for spin? Either way leaves you with the delicate task of pointing out shortcomings, if there are any.

    I am EXTREMELY lucky in that my wife not only drives, she's really good at it.

    @eleeski sounds like you might have been traumatized.
  • rockdogrockdog Posts: 437 Solid Baller
    My wife is the best driver the world has ever known...

    After she told me that I agreed wholeheartedly.
    keithh2oskierbraindamageOne_Skiral
  • bigskieridahobigskieridaho Posts: 569 Crazy Baller
    Practice is all it takes. My wife is a great driver and can hang with most of the guys at our lake. She was actually coaching me last night on driving....ha ha.
    ski6jones
  • thagerthager Posts: 3,787 Mega Baller
    @MS 's wife is just the best slalom driver ever!
    Stir vigorously then leave!
    MSmopowpow
  • Keith MenardKeith Menard Posts: 183 Baller
    Just be blunt...tell her all the things she is doing wrong and lay out in detail how they can be fixed. While you are at it, try to help her with her off side turn and some pointers on sprucing up a couple of those bland meals.

    If doing this while in the boat, I suggest doing so while wearing a coast guard approved vest design to roll you over if unconscious in the water.
    DaveDOne_Skiral
  • MillerTime38MillerTime38 Posts: 239 Solid Baller
    Agree with everyone here, find someone else to ride while you ski and give her feedback
    supergadget
  • supergadgetsupergadget Posts: 50 Baller
    @Orlando76, your first point is right on.

    I agree exactly !
    MillerTime38
  • aspskiaspski Posts: 29 Baller
    @keithh2oskier why are you not allowed to put a camera at the end of the lake? Either end?
  • B_SB_S Posts: 163 Baller
    @eleeski there's nothing sexist about advising a guy not to give his wife driving lessons. It's common sense! :)
    DaveD
  • keithh2oskierkeithh2oskier Posts: 295 Solid Baller
    @aspski our course is on a 3 mile slough so from one end, there is just an open ended slough. On the other end, it dog legs but the property side is private that we are not allowed to access.

  • bbruzzesebbruzzese Posts: 108 Baller
    Bulls eye boat sight was a big help for my wife...quick easy way for her to check her path occasionally during a pass.
    tdusinDaveD
  • BongoBongo Posts: 11 Baller
    Ditto on the thread.

    Years ago when my wife and I were getting into snowmobile riding (separate sleds), I asked my uncle if he had any advice. "Yes, always ride behind someone else's wife." (Huh?!?!?, I think.) His wife overheard the end of the conversation and chimed in; "Mr Swanson (their neighbor) is so nice. When I tip my sled over he comes along and puts my sled upright, compliments me on how well I dodged the trees and asks if I'm ok. I now always go to Mr Swanson if I have any questions. Not like riding behind Ronald (her husband) who not only tells me what I did wrong, but also lets me know laundry is late and the dinner last night was overcooked."

    I've followed this advice for a long, long time, whether when riding snowmobiles, skiing behind her driving or learning to play a new card game. Always better if someone else gives any helpful advice there may be.
    wtrskiorKeith MenardBruce_Butterfield
  • hemlockhemlock Posts: 78 Baller
    edited June 30
    FWIW, I think one of the most important parts of driving that is underestimated is the seat position. To me, drivers need to be comfortable in a confidant position that allows them to have control of the wheel and throttle.
    So often the driver just jumps in and gets ready to pull the next skier.
    Adjust the seat, that works best for the driver.
    I personally, when driving like the seat close so my feet are planted and I have control of the cockpit.
    wtrskiorDanEBruce_Butterfield
  • epnaultepnault Posts: 125 Baller
    If your wife is your driver. Just keep saying you are doing great no matter what. It really is the only coaching that will work.

    The boat site has been really good for her in the course.

    The heated seats and heated blanket also help. :)
  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,031 MM Trick Skier / Eccentric Person
    "The heated seats and heated blanket also help." @epnault It was 122f last weekend. Deviate a bit and the heat comes on. Aversion training? But that's more subtle than the more common shock treatment.
  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 2,149 Mega Baller
    I tell my wife pointy end goes forward!!........................ When she drives the boat!!
    Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.


    MuskokaKyOrlando76
  • Bookm_danoBookm_dano Posts: 57 Baller
    The less I say after 'Thanks, Honey' the better off we are.
    Always better if someone other than the spouse provides the critique and coaching.
    Bongo
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