Worst ski advice you have ever received.

skinutskinut Posts: 334 Baller
edited July 12 in Technique & Theory
Just curious about some of the worst/least helpful ski advice you have ever received. Mine was from a pro that was coaching me. After watching my ski pass the only thing he said after my pass was, "turn harder". I asked him what he meant by that and he followed up with, "just turn harder". In the back of my mind I was thinking, "Um, ok, I get the general principle but please describe the things I need to do to make that happen." oh, and I was also thinking, how do I get my money back.
Obrienslalom
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  • Orlando76Orlando76 Posts: 536 Crazy Baller
    I'm repeatedly told don't turn so hard. Can't say I've been given bad advice but I have been disappointed by going to coaches and them not letting me run the course. I get it, you need good fundamentals but at ~$80 a whack it's hard to free Ski and give it your all.
  • HortonHorton Posts: 23,547 Administrator
    @skinut haaa I have been meaning to start this thread for a long time.

    "Counter Rotate as much as you can at the ball"
    "At the end of the turn bend your knees as much as possible"
    "When you reach, push the handle out and back"

    And from the late 70s /early 80s the best Terrible advice is .... "pull the handle into your chest at the end of the turn and keep it there."

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  • MSMS Posts: 4,290 Mega Baller
    When @Horton told me that the Elite was a good ski and I dropped some hard earned cash on one.
    Shut up and ski
    HortonMattPski6jones
  • IlivetoskiIlivetoski Posts: 971 Crazy Baller
    "The course isn't symmetrical. The distance from 1 to 2 isn't the same as 3 to 4 so ski it that way." Also "I believe you need to be able to run your opener on a wooden disk before you can consistently do it in a tournament. You need to try 34 22 on a wooden table top and see what happens"

    These are serious ideas from the same person. I have more but I'll leave it at these
    keithh2oskierRalph Lee
  • IlivetoskiIlivetoski Posts: 971 Crazy Baller
    Oh, one more. "Turn so hard that you stretch the rope enough to create more distance between you and the boat" I'm not even sure what the idea behind this one was.
    keithh2oskier
  • keithh2oskierkeithh2oskier Posts: 295 Solid Baller
    @Ilivetoski keep them coming.
  • keithh2oskierkeithh2oskier Posts: 295 Solid Baller
    "just get wider"
    tjm
  • dislanddisland Posts: 1,053 Crazy Baller
    "get your hips up"
    Dave Island- Princeton Lakes
    Pat MtjmDrago
  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 1,860 Mega Baller
    Apparently, the worst advice is from @Horton when he said to clench the butt cheeks.
    The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.
  • IlivetoskiIlivetoski Posts: 971 Crazy Baller
    "We need more ski in the water, well just put your boots as far forward as possible, give me your ski." *did not give him my ski*

    "Pin your chin to the bottom of your neck" at this point I just let everything he said go in one ear and out the other

    "Just lean harder! That's all you gotta do at 35 off!" *ended in an OTF with a shoulder injury that kept me off the water for 2 weeks. This was when I decided to stop listening to him*
  • 94009400 Posts: 553 Solid Baller
    "You need a quicker edge change"
  • bf`bf` Posts: 82 Baller
    edited July 12
    "Don't buy a lake".
    Didn't listen.


    For ski advice, it's probably a toss-up between "Pull as hard as you can"
    and
    "In the turn, rotate immediately to face directly across to the other side of the lake"
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,412 Mega Baller
    you need to pull harder, like you are trying to get to shore
    Jim Ross
  • scorban2scorban2 Posts: 44 Baller
    When learning to slalom, I was told/read to put my dominant foot in the back, since that's what you used to turn. I never switched feet once I realized it was wrong (tried and quickly gave up).
  • greggreg Posts: 33 Baller
    "more weight on your rear foot"
    Greg Chapman
    Horton
  • skidawgskidawg Posts: 3,080 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    Stand on your Balls @ToddL !!!!
    Mr. Mom is Horton's favorite movie!
    MattPHortonToddLjlittle
  • HortonHorton Posts: 23,547 Administrator
    edited July 12
    @MISkier unless you came to my parents ski school in the 80s you never heard me say that or you misunderstood me making fun of terrible coaching

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  • A_BA_B Posts: 3,770 Mega Baller
    pull your nuts off.
  • thagerthager Posts: 3,790 Mega Baller
    Less is more!
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • Bill22Bill22 Posts: 1,149 Crazy Baller
    "If your on the fence between the 65" or 67" get the longer ski, you'll be able to ski longer without getting tired."

    2006 At the time I was 3 lb over the recommended range of the 65" and knew nothing about performance skis. I never liked that 67" ski.
  • BoozeBooze Posts: 273 Baller
    "make a good edge change"
    AdamCord
  • ToddLToddL Posts: 2,701 Mega Baller
    @skidawg - ha!!!!
    -- The future of skiing depends upon welcoming novice skiers regardless of age to our sport.
    skidawg
  • jcampjcamp Posts: 609 Crazy Baller
    "Turn when you hear me whistle."
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 5,620 Mega Baller
    Wow, this is making me realize I really haven't received a lot of bad advice. But I did have one similar to @Bill22 where "the expert" on a particular ski insisted that I go with a 68". I argued that was much too big, but he was certain. With my knowledge today, I would have gotten off that ski after a week. Not only did my performance suffer, but there was really nothing useful to learn from it. But I was dumb and spent a year on it. Oh well, it was still fun to ski!
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
    Bill22
  • ozskiozski Posts: 1,377
    Switching the feet around of an established skier.
    'Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better.'' Boat 2005 Nautique 196 6L ZO - Ski: KD Platinum

  • ToddLToddL Posts: 2,701 Mega Baller
    "Stop..." or "Don't..." Telling someone what not do do just causes them to visualize that exact wrong thing, inadvertently reinforcing the wrong action.
    -- The future of skiing depends upon welcoming novice skiers regardless of age to our sport.
    sunvalleylaw
  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 1,824 Mega Baller
    "Maybe you should try golf." I've received this advice from practically every coach that has watched me ski.
    John Wilkins- Si non pro sanguine quem ludus ne. #iskiconnelly
    allycatChunkydTeddy
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