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aspskiaspski Posts: 110 Baller
Well gang I am quite disappointed today. I had talked with a guy selling a 2007 Malibu Response LXI, we had negotiated price and I was going to test drive it saturday morning. Got up in the am to make sure all was good to go and he said the boat sold the night before to some buyer who emailed the money friday night without even seeing the boat. I hate dealing with people sometimes. I had the cash ready to go, we had a handshake agreement, I have storage, insurance and everything else ready to go. Heres hoping I can find something just as nice prior to summer next year. I am super bitter right now and I hope the engine grenades next time the boat is turned on


  • keithh2oskierkeithh2oskier Posts: 412 Crazy Baller
    Yeh same thing happened to me when I bought my nautique. Had an agreement lined up and then he sold it to another guy. What really chapped my ass was he was in my dads waterski club and sold it to some random dude. But it worked out in the end and I got a newer boat (TSC2 instead of TSC1) for less money. When I bought mine I think I mailed him a good faith check until we could get the deal done a week later.
  • liquid dliquid d Posts: 1,001 Crazy Baller
    Nothing used is sold until you've got cash in hand
  • John BrooksJohn Brooks Posts: 304 Crazy Baller
    I've had too many sellers fall through and I agree with @oldjeep , if the money is in my hand, sold.
  • aspskiaspski Posts: 110 Baller
    Still annoying that he didn't even give me a chance. Oh well, a better boat will come up.

    Anyone have a nice mid 2000s Response for sale in Western Canada?
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,043 Mega Baller
    Agree re cash BUT why not give the first guy a chance to outbid? (Serious question; I have relatively little experience buying or selling boats.)
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • LeonLLeonL Posts: 2,255 Crazy Baller
    If I were the seller in this situation I would have contacted @aspski and told him I need the money tonight, because of the new guy on the line, before I took the next Guy's money. You can't let a buyer slip away, but some level of integrity and commitment seems to be in order. Like @DavidN said, I'm kinda old fashioned.
    Leon Leonard Stillwater Lake KY - SR Driver SR Judge
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 2,855 Mega Baller
    Two way street, as a buyer it sucks when someone sells stuff out from under you;
    But the number of times a buyer has held me hostage through the weekend to come look at my stuff only to low ball or not bring cash or not even show up.

    I won't come up in my offer when people play that game, they're usually trying to play you against them anyhow.
  • LeonLLeonL Posts: 2,255 Crazy Baller
    I hate selling anything. I can't count the times I've had a potential buyer make an appointment and just not show up. That's why I wouldn't be able handle being on the promo program. Pressure to sell every year and then dealing with tire kickers and jerk offs.
    Leon Leonard Stillwater Lake KY - SR Driver SR Judge
  • BdeckerBdecker Posts: 254 Solid Baller
    A handshake deal with no other contingency is different than an agreed price prior to test drive. If the scenario was a handshake and you were just getting the bank check, then I think the seller should have called you. Doesn’t sound like that was the case here. Selling anything is a pain. Buyers flake out all the time.
  • jhughesjhughes Posts: 797 Mega Baller
    Hey the silver lining here is that you now do not own a 2007 LXi! A plus for certain. Now you can consider the many other boats in that price range that are better than that boat.

    I also agree that cash on premise takes the deal. People are way too flaky these days. When I buy something big like this I always say "if the deal goes through it's meant to be". Sometimes a missed deal is the best thing that ever happened.
  • dvskierdvskier Posts: 310 Solid Baller
    I agree [email protected], you hadn't performed the "test drive" and the buyer obviously had no such constraints. I usually tell the buyer that the first person with cash is the owner. There will be other boats that suit your needs down the road. Best time to buy in my opinion is Nov-Feb. I understand you're in Canada and that could make a water test difficult.
  • FSSPCatFSSPCat Posts: 116 Baller
    @apskier I had the same thing happen to me in June. Luckily, an even better boat/deal came about. Was that the 07 on Kijiji?
  • igkyaigkya Posts: 501 Solid Baller
    @aspski, what would you have done if once you showed up for the test drive and the boat wasn't as expected? Would you still have bought it at the negotiated price? Cash (in hand) is KING!
  • aspskiaspski Posts: 110 Baller
    @FSSPCat Yeah it was the 07 on kijiji. The owner actually contacted me about it prior to putting up the add since I have a "looking for" posting on kijiji.
  • aspskiaspski Posts: 110 Baller
    @jhughes Not a fan of the lxi's? What other boats in that price range should I keep an eye out for? I love to slalom ski, but also like to surf and board, or just relax all day on the water with friends
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,643 Mega Baller
    @aspski the LXI is a great boat for what you want. The only issue with the 07 is if you want to ski the course I don't think the 07/ had ZO they are PP Stargazer boats.
    Mark Shaffer
  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 2,253 Mega Baller
    edited September 2017
    @Chef23, an 07 can be converted to ZO. It's the first year Malibu that can be.
    The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.
  • bigskieridahobigskieridaho Posts: 877 Crazy Baller
    Yep was searching for a boat for my parents and the same thing happened. I threw cash down on mine right when I saw it in the add. Good luck and throw it down when you find one.
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,643 Mega Baller
    @MISkier I understand you are correct but I think it requires a new ECM in addition to ZO. Still cheaper than a repower.
    Mark Shaffer
  • braindamagebraindamage Posts: 132 Baller
    There is always another boat. Keep looking and you will find the right one.
  • Ski_DadSki_Dad Posts: 270 Baller
    i had a few buying experiences like that in the past. 6 years ago i was pretty upset at a sour deal and then we got a really nice deal a few weeks later. It was a great boat for us for 5 years.

    I can tell you that Malibu is a great ski boat - i got a 2003 Sunsetter LXI with Perfect Pass this spring and it skies nicer than most of my friends boats. Well except for my friend that has a Nautique 200
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,643 Mega Baller
    @oldjeep I mostly ski without ZO as I have a 2002 Malibu LX. However if I was buying a boat as new as an 07 I would pay a little more to get an 08 with ZO.
    Mark Shaffer
  • aspskiaspski Posts: 110 Baller
    Will I notice a difference between ZO and perfect pass? I usually free ski as most lakes near me don't have a course. Would love to step up to the course but will a regular cruise control still do the trick?
  • NandoNando Posts: 436 Crazy Baller
    Another thread that makes me feel thankful for the guy I recently bought a boat from- he got another offer, but told the guy that because I had expressed interest first, he wouldn't accept the second offer until after talking to me. Then he apologized to me because he didn't want to pressure me. This was only a couple of weeks after making an offer on a boat and having the owner call me the morning I was going to drive out to buy it and tell me he'd sold it the day before because the guy had cash- well, so did I, but after all was said and done, I feel better about giving my cash to the guy i did...
  • foxriveratfoxriverat Posts: 476 Crazy Baller
    edited September 2017
    If you plan on training for tournaments and have the budget get a zo boat. I`m 5.7 160 ski 22 off 30 mph and I cant feel the difference between zo or perfect pass. My buddy who`s 6.0 225 and gets into 28 off can feel the differnence as he pulls much harder. Before ZO came around pp was used in tournaments.
    2000 Malibu Response LX 2016 66 lithium vapor
  • david_quaildavid_quail Posts: 130 Baller
    edited September 2017
    I'm just starting, getting 32MPH, 15off, and 30MPH, 22 off this year, but can totally tell the difference between ZO and PP.
    I constantly switch between skiing behind my PP Nautique 196 at a public lake (mostly in the course but a bit of free skiing) and then behind a new 200 with ZO at a private ski club. Each time I switch, it takes me a few passes to get used to it, especially switching back to the ZO boat which will simply not give back anything, regardless how hard I pull.

    I agree with @foxriverat about getting a ZO if you plan on tournaments. But IMO both are fantastic to ski the course and learn behind. They're just different.
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