Boat advice

seveetseveet Posts: 17 Baller
I am currently looking for a slalom boat for recreational skiing and to reach my kids. I have a nautique 230 and love their fit finish and comfort. I have spent some time behind a friends 96 prostar. I typically ski at 34 mph 22 off on a Connelly Fx1. We probably won't be using this in a coarse. Unfortunately, my wife won't let me spend more than 7000 on another toy. I found an 84 Stars and Stripes that seems to be in good condition with a 440 Chrysler engine (1500 hrs).I wound hope to get this for around 4000. I am also looking at a 91 prostar with a 351 Windsor (780 hrs) that looks to be in excellent condition. This may push the budget. I would hope to get it around 7000. I would appreciate any input on the wakes, how they compare to what I know, the engines, the engine reliability, other things that I should look for. The nostalgia side of me would love the Stars and Stripes. I just don't want a giant headache. Thx

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  • IlivetoskiIlivetoski Posts: 971 Crazy Baller
    1500 hours is a lot. If its been kept up with, its not a huge deal, but if its had multiple different owners it may have found its way to one who didn't do much upkeep on it. Never skied either so I can't give you any input on that.
  • LoopSkiLoopSki Posts: 135 Baller
    Go for the 91.
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 4,467 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Go with the '91. No wood, great wake.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 1,812 Crazy Baller
    The 91 would be my pick, I have a boat w/ that Hull and I've had a boat with the Windsor engine.

    That's a good boat - possibly a little slow so I'd skip it if you're a barefooter, but its a great all around hang out/cruise/ski boat.

    That said if you look for a Prostar 205 direct drive from the same vintage you'll get an open bow.
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 1,623 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Hands down the '91. Every aspect of that boat is superior to the '84, other than maybe nostalgia.
    Scott Calderwood
  • fu_manfu_man Posts: 307 Baller
    91 is a great hull. Great wakes and a beautiful boat. I would probably go with that.

    But Good Lord that Stars and Stripes is a gorgeous boat!
  • seveetseveet Posts: 17 Baller
    I know and I really like blue boats. That is what makes this more challenging.
  • RivvyRivvy Posts: 122 Baller
    Going with the consensus '91. That boat looks perfect.
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 1,812 Crazy Baller
    @seveet you can go check them out - how old are the kids? The sidewalls are way deeper on the 91 than the stars and stripes - if the kids are quite young they will be more secure in the bigger boat.
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 1,623 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Agree with @BraceMaker We have an '86 (same layout to that '83) that we bought out of nostalgia. Super cool boat, but really tiny! Not that the '91 is huge by any means, but there's way more space in comparison. Having also owned a '91 fairly recently, I have current and direct experience. BTW, the '83 rooster tail and spray are nasty!
    Scott Calderwood
  • seveetseveet Posts: 17 Baller
    Kids are 10 and 7. Unfortunately the boats are several hours away and not near one another. I would rather have a planned deal prior to traveling. The boat would primarily be for early morning slalom runs. Everything with the kids would be from the dock. The kids are already getting up surfing (I know four letter word hear). I am just hoping to expand their horizons. How does the 91 compare to the 96 I have been behind?
    Sounds like I should get over nostalgia.
  • seveetseveet Posts: 17 Baller
    Do you think 7000 is a reasonable price for the 91?
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 4,467 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Lotta boat for $7K. If you want an '87 for $6K my ski buddy has a very nice example...having said that the '91 is one thousand dollars better than the prior hull in '87 which is two thousand dollars better than a stars and stripes.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • TallSkinnyGuyTallSkinnyGuy Posts: 516 Solid Baller
    @seveet I have a '97 MC 190 but haven't skied behind the 91-94 MC 190 hull. I've been told that the 91-94 version has a slightly smaller, softer wake than the 95-97 hull but more spray (only noticeable in a strong headwind or -35 and shorter). If you ski longer lines and like the '96 you skied behind, you should love the '91.
    Andre
  • seveetseveet Posts: 17 Baller
    I appreciate all the input. I am planning on picking the 91 up on Friday as long as it water tests ok. Any specific things I should be looking for?
    Jordan
  • TallSkinnyGuyTallSkinnyGuy Posts: 516 Solid Baller
    One of the great things about owning a MC is the incredibly helpful MC TeamTalk forum. Lots of knowledgeable people who are willing to help. Here is an extensive used-boat-inspection checklist thread:
    used boat checklist
  • TallSkinnyGuyTallSkinnyGuy Posts: 516 Solid Baller
    One more comment: don't overlook inspecting the trailer. I was so focused on the boat when I bought mine that I didn't spend much time looking at the trailer. When I got home and looked at it I found 15-year-old tires that had to be replaced immediately, brakes that did not work and other issues. These would all have been negotiating points if I had paid attention when checking out the boat.
    swc5150
  • CkruegCkrueg Posts: 18 Baller
    Where are you from? I'm near grand Rapids and considered going to look at that 91 lol.
  • seveetseveet Posts: 17 Baller
    Ckrueg- I am out in Muskegon on Mona Lake. I grew up in Rockford. Where are you in GR?
  • CkruegCkrueg Posts: 18 Baller
    edited October 5
    I'm living in Belding. I usually ski at my parents place on Cowden lake near howard city, or at my grandparents cottage on Crystal lake in Frankfort.
  • seveetseveet Posts: 17 Baller
    So it's coming home. Overall seemed pretty solid. What are the recommendations for the best set up from a waterskiing standpoint. It has a stand or three blade prop on it.
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 1,812 Crazy Baller
    edited October 6
    Did you figure out if it has the 1:1 or 1.5:1 trans? - cnc 3 blade.
    elr
  • TallSkinnyGuyTallSkinnyGuy Posts: 516 Solid Baller
    The Mastercraft TeamTalk forum is an invaluable resource -- you should join that forum if you haven't already.
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 1,623 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    The standard 3 blade will be fine
    Scott Calderwood
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