Question for 2017 TXI Owners

OscawanaSkierOscawanaSkier Posts: 2 Baller
Hey Everyone - first post, so thanks in advance for the answers

The wife and I are looking to buy our first new boat, and we are eyeing a 2018 TXI. I've been a Malibu fan since I started skiing (my buddy's Sportster has the flattest wake on our lake). For us this will be a long-term investment - ideally lasting us 10-20 years. But this will be our only boat, so creature comforts (like the walk-through open bow) are super important. But reliability is too - the closest Malibu dealer is over an hour away from our small lake.

I've now skied behind the 17 TXI a couple times at ski schools. From a skier's POV - it seems great. Easy up, lots of pull, and the historically flat wake. But while my buddies are skiing, I always climb into the boat and ask the driver what they think - and to be honest, I've been surprised by the gripes. In addition, I've read most of what's been posted on BoS about the 17 TXI, including this epic thread (New 2017 Response) and the complaints that rise to the top are:
  1. Slow out of the hole (not been an issue for me, but my buddies complained about this too)
  2. "Issues" with the computer (mentioned by both drivers without a lot of elaboration)
  3. A rattle behind the port and starboard side panels
  4. Long delay (15sec??) when computer turns on
  5. Rear compartment lids and gas cap catching the tow rope
  6. Taking on water (apparently due to loose swim platform from the factory)
  7. Rudder fine-tuning (I understand from another thread that rudder trims are being added for the 18's)
My only observed complaint was the noise/vibration I felt in both of the TXI's (this might relate to #3 above) - just seemed louder than I expected.

17 TXI Owners - I was looking for input on two things:
- What's been your experience with your 17? What problems have you had, and how did Malibu deal with them?
- Does anyone know if Malibu is dealing with any of these issues in the 18 TXI (maybe @Chad_Scott could chime in here?)

Again, I'm a huge Malibu fan, and I like what I see in the 17 TXI over the 17 ProStar, but I want to make sure we're investing in a boat that's going to last.
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  • StejcraftbenStejcraftben Posts: 50 Baller
    I went in one on the weekend. The owner complained of slow hole shot but took off really well after maybe 3 seconds of pulling the skier out. He complained the steering felt flighty but that could be fine tuned. Apart from that all good! Personally I thought the Boat felt cheap... it cost him 120k here in aus... I’d expect a lot more for that kind of money.
  • ozskiozski Posts: 1,377
    Pretty sure the Aussie spec boats are not the same as the US so possibly not the best basis for comparison. Having said that the dated Monsoon / Indmar combination is your only option here in Australia from what I have heard, no way I would drop 120k on that..
    'Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better.'' Boat 2005 Nautique 196 6L ZO - Ski: KD Platinum

    hemlock
  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 1,854 Mega Baller
    I have experienced 1, 5, and 7. For #1, it was not our boat that had the hole shot issue, but a promo boat I drove at a couple of tournaments. I believe it is a heat issue, as the boat was very quick when cold off the trailer, but became substantially slower as the day progressed.

    As a skier, I have liked the wake and the overall pull characteristics a lot.
    The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.
  • ZmanZman Posts: 955 Crazy Baller
    I cannot speak for the 2017 except I like skiing behind it. I have a 2016 and really like everything about it. Drives great, skis great and all the creature comforts you can get.
    Blood type IPA
  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 1,854 Mega Baller
    I'll add that I liked our 2015 TXi better than the 2017. The wake is slightly better on the 2017, but the 2015 drove great, had tons of power, and had no rope issues or other quirks.
    The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.
    Jack Kinnejhughesski6jones
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 4,465 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Nice boat, I'd get the bigger motor (I say that about CC 200's and Prostar's, too). I like being able to have enough power to pull a hole shot any variety of ways and with any variety of loads, and being able to get to speed on short set-ups.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
    MISkierBdecker
  • jhughesjhughes Posts: 655 Crazy Baller
    edited October 17
    2015 was a great year. You'll see some of my 17 opinions in that original thread.

    I'd highly encourage the OP to drive and ski the big three as well as a 15/16 TXi and form your own opinion because you'll get a full spectrum of opinions here, some very guarded or defensive, very touchy subject in a very tiny marketplace.

    I wouldn't worry about any of these boats from a durability perspective.

    Ultimately if you are a Malibu guy you're going to want the Malibu, and, if you're dropping this much coin you should get what you really want, but it's a lot of coin so try stuff out as much as reasonably possible.
  • LLUSALLUSA Posts: 206 Solid Baller
    We've had our 17 since middle August, turning 200 hours today, boat has run as perfect as it could, and drives very well. We do have the 409, only thing I see is the 10 sec delay on the screen coming up, the rudder has been worked on, but this boat tracks.
    LLUSA, Sr Driver, AWSA Board of Directors, Towboat Committee,Lake Owner
  • RAWSkiRAWSki Posts: 338 Solid Baller
    I think most of these issues are unique to early build boats and you will be just fine with a 2018. Maybe your dealer is willing to come to you or do pick-up/delivery if you have issues during the first 6-12 months? I don't have any experience with the dash-screen interface but If you are suspect of the 'computer system' I believe there is a model that has traditional gauges for a bit less. Good Luck
  • bigskieridahobigskieridaho Posts: 569 Crazy Baller
    They ski great. My observations were they were a little noisy inside, couple rudder issues, and ZO had a hard time mapping. If you like Malibu then buy what you want so you won't regret it later. I love my Malibu.
  • DWDW Posts: 1,541 Crazy Baller
    @OscawanaSkier : have fun shopping, congrats on helping our economy. Curious, what do you like better in the TXi compared to the Prostar. I think both are awesome boats.

    Malibu has a QC department, so the early model issues should be taken care of (#2,3,4,6)although many items are finished at your local dealer so there may be variations across dealerships as to the quality of the work (#6, 7). The newer boats with greater wetted surface tend to want the more powerful engine combinations (#1), particularly if at altitude or when in hotter conditions (lower air density). As for the computer, it will be interesting to watch how the integration of touch screens in ski boats fare over the long term, electrons tend not to like water. Item #1 was a Prostar issue also, an engine vent was the MC solution, no idea if the TXi has a similar running change.
  • LeonLLeonL Posts: 1,897 Crazy Baller
    Hopefully this has been addressed for 2018, but 2017 boats had a problem with spontaneous starting. As in starting on its own with no one around.
    Leon Leonard Stillwater Lake KY - SR Driver SR Judge
  • OscawanaSkierOscawanaSkier Posts: 2 Baller
    @DW - I've also skied and been in the 17 Prostar - like it a lot too (both as a skier and in the boat). Only thing I don't love is the fold-up seat that you have to step over to get into the bow (I've actually haven't seen that in the folded position in person - but just looked at photos online).

    Regarding the computer - I'm a believer that the more sh*t you have in the boat, the more that's eventually going to break. I've been looking hard at the NON-MO version (without the large touchpanel). I don't really know for certain if the "computer" is any different in the Non-MO version - I just assume less is going on (anyone know details about this?).

    Related question - how is the ZO different (in terms of ski-related features - not visuals) on the MO vs. non-MO versions?
    sunperch
  • ColeGiacopuzziColeGiacopuzzi Posts: 344 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    @OscawanaSkier

    I spent a lot of time one week skiing behind a 17 Malibu.

    They drive extremely well, I thought it was a upgrade from the previous TXI's, which drove pretty good already. Each one is fine tuned before it leaves the factory.

    As for being slow out of the hole, there's actually a setting called throttle response and you can change it to aggressive.
    Cole Giacopuzzi • Radar Skis
    swc51506balls
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,412 Mega Baller
    the folding seat is actually awesome. Very easy and you can have it up or down at your choice. If you don't need the seating space, leave it down all the time and it is a standard walk over. I put mine up when I ski, and down when I wipe the boat. Works great.
    Jim Ross
    m_pags
  • thompjsthompjs Posts: 511 Baller
    The rattle on my 17 is from the glove box lid.
    Other than that it is really nice. Dennis Kelly ground rudder at factory (mine is promo) and it drives great.
    I did not have issue with the rope catching, except getting it caught on swim deck.
    That was rare and really hard to do.

  • John BrooksJohn Brooks Posts: 270 Crazy Baller
    I drove and skied behind an 18 recently and was very impressed. Driving it tracked great and felt good pulling short line skiers. If I rate boats for steering, I would say the Nautique has the tightest steering and best driving and my opinion the 18 TXI is a close second, thinking of the top 4. I own a 15 Centurion Carbon Pro that skies and drives great and driven and skied behind all 4 regularly. A good friend has what I think is a 2004 or so Malibu he bought new, uses the boat a lot and from a durability perspective, has been a great boat. Malibu builds a solid product IMO.
  • teammalibuteammalibu Posts: 582 Crazy Baller
    We love ours and have not had any troubles with any issues described! Its not as quick out of the hole as the 16 but not been a problem and one of our lakes is a pretty quick setup! It is available for purchase now!
    Mike Erb Cedar Ridge Canton Miss.
    Horton is my hero
  • ConorConor Posts: 27 Baller
    I like all boats. On our private lake there are 2 200s. One 5.7 and one 6L. There is a 2015 and 2013 malibu txi. A few 196s. I picked up a 2017 txi and put 120 hrs on it this summer. The break in on the engine took a little longer than expected, but around 90hrs the hole shot power came around. After some prop testing and grinding rudder a bit, it drives really well. I think it drives as well or better than the other boats on the lake. It is definitely easier to drive and requires less effort when pulling for long periods of time. My largest complaint--- the seat doesn't scoot forward enough for short drivers or ones that like being close to steering wheel. I will be modifying it myself next season so that my most consistent driver(wife), is more comfortable when I am floundering behind her.
  • Chad_ScottChad_Scott Posts: 357 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    @Conor moving the seat is pretty easy. Just pull it out and you will see how to re drill to move forward
    MISkier
  • RogerRoger Posts: 1,413 Crazy Baller
    @Conor @Chad_Scott - That was pretty much my only complaint as well, I could not get the seat quite close enough for me. Nice to know it's an easy fix.
    Roger B. Clark - Okeeheelee skier. Senior driver, Senior Judge
  • ChetChet Posts: 39 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    My rear end is planted in one of those bad boys about six to ten hours a day. The boat is super user friendly. Lots of space and drives so easy it’s ridiculous.
    As for skiing it’s addicting. I know I'm a six liter junkie to begin with but the interface with zero off is hard to beat. On top of everything else the boat has made it much easier in tournaments to interface with other boats. I had trouble adapting boat to boat but that is getting way better skiing off the Malibu on a regular basis. Great boat, great people and they love and are committed to three event skiing as are we all.
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 1,623 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited October 19
    Not sure if you had a particular boat you're looking at, but this one is still available at our local dealership. It's been there for quite some time, as you can see by the snow in the pics. I bet you could score a great deal, being it's now a non-current model year. (I used the link button, so hopefully I linked it correctly)

    Link
    Scott Calderwood
  • bbrannanbbrannan Posts: 9 Baller
    We have experienced 1, 2, 5, 6, and 7 with our ‘17. Loose platform and pylon from factory. “Ghost start” on a lift one time with nobody in it, difficulty starting and stopping 4-5 other times. Bilge would run about once every other skier until we caulked the underside of the rub rail. Steering took some fine tuning. Screen glitched out once or twice, easily fixed by flipping battery kill switch. 5.3L DI and 6.2L 200s feel like rocket ships relative to the Crusader 6.0L.

    All that said, I think (hope) most of these were issues you could forgive on a completely redisigned/new boat. Ours was probably one of the first boats off the line. Factory contact also said they have had a lot of turnover at the factory (that was our explanation for loose pylon/platform). Hope our ‘18 requires less attention.

    Drives and skis well, but not my favorite in either category. Functionally the interior is excellent, do wish the driver’s seat moved forward one more click.
    OSUwaterskier
  • LoopSkiLoopSki Posts: 135 Baller
    Ghost start seems really scary !!
    RAWSkiGHLskier
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 4,465 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    None of that is cool...if I spent $70K and had all kinds of glitches I have to admit I'd be hot...even in year one. Same if I spent on a car.
    Having said that, many first year cars have at least some issues. Basically tells me to avoid year 1 of a new design.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • thompjsthompjs Posts: 511 Baller
    @Chad_Scott
    Ditto on DK
  • mbabiashmbabiash Posts: 294 Baller
    edited October 19
    No problems whatsoever with this one. Powerful and tracks awesome. Only 45 hours!

    Link

    Sorry for long link. Tried to shorten it 3 times.
    6balls
  • Chad_ScottChad_Scott Posts: 357 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    Nice looking boat
    6balls
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