How do I avoid fraud when selling a ski on ski-it-again

escmanazeescmanaze Posts: 425 Crazy Baller
Hi Guys,
I'm an inexperienced seller on ski-it-again. I'm selling a ski and I think the buyer is officially all lined up. So far everything seems legit, so I don't have a specific reason to worry other than just general concern. Any tips, tricks, etc. for staying safe?

What is the normal for when I expect payment? Expect it when fedex delivers it? Expect it before I even ship it fedex? split?

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  • bajabaja Posts: 219 Baller
    Just require payment by PayPal. The money is yours in 5 minutes. Then you ship. No scam possible and you don't waste your time.
    MISkierChunkydski6jones
  • foxriveratfoxriverat Posts: 358 Solid Baller
    Paypal is the way to go. Also make sure you figure in shipping costs. Skis are not cheap to ship
    2000 Malibu Response LX 67 Radar senate double vector highwraps
    MISkierChunkyd
  • LeonLLeonL Posts: 1,925 Crazy Baller
    But....put yourself in the shoes of the buyer. He sends money without any assurance that he's going to get anything. Call me an idiot but I've shipped skis to people without any money up front and never been cheated. Worst experience I had was after I got the money the buyer complained about some Sharpie marks I made while trying the ski, and that it wasn't the model that I said it was. I was flabbergasted by both. I responded "put a binding on it and the marks will be covered, or use some ffingernail polish remover". As to the correct model, I said I don't understand what you're talking about. The buyer later admitted that they were wrong. Obviously the buyer was unknowledgeable and someone else was giving them bad info.
    Leon Leonard Stillwater Lake KY - SR Driver SR Judge
    Jody_SealToddA
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 1,849 Crazy Baller
    I wouldn't plunk down the coin to ship until the payment is sent.

    Paypal lets you "invoice" the buyer which when paid you ship - but this does cost you a bit of money as a seller. It is "free" to the seller if the buyer sends you money as a gift, but frankly if I'm a buyer I'd worry that if I never got the ski I'd not have any recourse w/ paypal.

    I've purchased 10 or so times off ski-it-again and have never been bitten.
    oldjeepToddA
  • lakeaustinskierlakeaustinskier Posts: 295 Baller
    As someone who has bought and sold not only skis but also boats on SIA the best policy is complete honesty. I'm getting ready to sell a boat on SIA and I've already taken pictures of all the positives and negatives of the boat. Also, I know this sounds old fashioned but if the Buyer or Seller will only deal with you via email or text - walk away. There's nothing better than voice communication to make sure everyone is happy.
    Ted Thomson, Austin Texas, Aquaplex
    MISkierschaferReggieO
  • bigskieridahobigskieridaho Posts: 581 Crazy Baller
    Just like any place you buy something from, boats, skis, etc. Ask for close up pictures of everything or utilize even a FaceTime with them and you can talk person to person and see the product. Money up front always by PayPal so it is legit and you have records. I have bought numerous items on SIA and it has been awesome! Hope this helps.
    ToddA
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 1,648 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I've used Paypal for the handful of skis I've sold on SIA. I've also sold 4 boats on SIA, with no issues...and never spoke to the buyer before delivery day (I'm fine with the email/text thing in this day and age). The nice thing about SIA is the seller or buyer, I've found anyway, can usually be tracked back to BOS, PN, TT, Bu Crew, etc. It doesn't seem to be a c-list type of site, where every scammer in the world is targeting.
    Scott Calderwood
  • DavidNDavidN Posts: 80 Baller
    There’s always a risk even if you use PayPal as a seller.
    The buyer can “open up a case” with PayPal any time (up to 5 Months or so) after receiving the item, requesting his money back through them.
    Then it’s on you to proof that the item was delivered (and not only a box containing a 2x4) and in a condition you both agreed on.

    Take and keep lots of pictures of the article and even of the process of it being packed and the finished (and undamaged) box to be prepared for a potential case with PayPal.
    As stated above - talking to the buyer helps you get an impression, but is no guarantee that everything wents smooth.

    I prefer to sell locally, but unfortunately that limits your target group aka potential buyers.
    jayski
  • TdubTdub Posts: 187 Baller
    Never a problem with SIA. Paypal is the way to go.
    ToddA
  • ToddAToddA Posts: 55 Baller
    I have bought a ski, and sold (probably) 5 skis, as well as bindings on SIA. I have never been bitten, and like mentioned up above by @LeonL , I have also shipped before receiving a check. I have since gone with PayPal to receive payment, even though I haven't had a negative experience previously. I have found everyone that I have dealt with very honest and positive. Best of luck! :)
    WaterSkier12sodbuster88
  • 76S&S76S&S Posts: 44 Baller
    I recently bought a ski on SIA. The add stated that it belonged to a 80 year old guy and was lightly used. Knowing that there aren't many 80 year olds skiing, much less 80 year olds skiing on a D3 ARC-S I got suspicious and asked if we could have a quick call. 30 minutes later I had an awesome call with this guy and should I ever travel to his area I would love to get out on the water with him and take a few sets. There are @ss holes everywhere but, I think the skiing community as a whole, is primarily composed of good, honest people.
    bajaWaterSkier12ToddABruce_Butterfield
  • MuskokaKyMuskokaKy Posts: 145 Baller
    I made a purchase last spring from a BOS forum / Baller. Baller purolated the package to me in Canada prior to me paying!! i said i would pay for it to just let me know and sent him the money as soon as it arrived. Oklahoma boys are top shelf!! Great experience for me and i trust people on here hands down. I'm in the process of buying a trick ski from another baller on here; luckily we live quiet close to each other so its like a local sale...
    ToddA
  • skibackwardsskibackwards Posts: 37 Baller
    Everything I bought on SIA has been great and the transactions pretty smooth.
  • escmanazeescmanaze Posts: 425 Crazy Baller
    thanks everybody for the input. Wish me luck!! Here I go!!
  • thagerthager Posts: 3,815 Mega Baller
    I always go to usaws and try to pull up their name. Tournament skiers have always been ok.
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • gregygregy Posts: 2,379 Mega Baller
    edited December 3
    I kinda screwed myself once. We agreed on a price plus shipping. He paid for the ski. I went to find out what shipping was and went ahead and shipped the ski. The guy would never respond to my emails after that. So not all skiers are honest. Get all the money up front.
  • Kwoody51Kwoody51 Posts: 20 Baller
    edited December 3
    While I haven’t sold as much ski gear i’ve sold LOTS of other items via forum and boards.

    I always get payment up front prior to shipping. I send as many pics as needed for the seller to be comfortable. Pretty quick you can tell if you are dealing with an enthusiast or a tire kicker.

    As a buyer i’ve only been burned once and CC company took care of me (repaid me) and went after seller for fraud.

    There are criminals out there but most people are good :smile:)
    WaterSkier12
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