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Difference between the Radar Senate series

skigirl00skigirl00 Posts: 34 Baller
When looking into the Radar Senate series: graphite, alloy, and lithium... what are the major differences between the three? Is there one that is more preferable over the rest?

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  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,078 Mega Baller
    Main difference that mere mortals would care about is that the alloy has a fixed/sliding fin and the other versions all have a normal adjustable fin block.
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
    skigirl00
  • LobonatorLobonator Posts: 39 Baller
    The lithium Senate is definitely the best in that line for the 2018 model year. Things might change up when they switch the shape for the 2019 model year.

    Between the three you will notice more response and speed as you move up the line from allow to lithium. If you are skiing the course regularly, the lithium should be the only one you consider within the Senate line.
    skigirl00
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,078 Mega Baller
    edited August 1
    Also, if you are looking at the Senate then you might want to look at the Lyric as well. basically the womens version of the Senate - appears to be a version of the Alloy (fixed fin). Typically there seem to be more lyrics available in closeout/end of season than Senates
    https://www.wakehouse.com/products/radar-lyric-womens-water-ski-w-lyric-hrt-2018.html
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
  • skigirl00skigirl00 Posts: 34 Baller
    edited August 1
    @oldjeep is the Lyric more of an open water ski? I'm looking for a ski that can handle both free skiing and course, since I'm planning on competing on a course in college. I'm also more familiar with HO and Connelly, but I'm open to seeing what Radar has to offer.
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,078 Mega Baller
    The Lyric is basically the womens Senate.
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
  • Bill22Bill22 Posts: 1,433 Crazy Baller
    @skigirl00 if you are interested in the Lyric or Senate I would wait a few days ;) there could be something new out soon.
    In gear. Hit It. Thank You!
    skigirl00
  • skigirl00skigirl00 Posts: 34 Baller
    @oldjeep sweet! Do you know how well the Senate/Lyric performs in a course, in comparison to the Vapor?
  • skigirl00skigirl00 Posts: 34 Baller
    @Bill22 So I have heard! I'm excited to see what is revealed.
  • brooksbrooks Posts: 178 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    Hey @skigirl00, would love to get you on a Radar, email me at [email protected] and we can talk about what may be best for you!
    skigirl00shansen345
  • Bill22Bill22 Posts: 1,433 Crazy Baller
    edited August 1
    If you are just beginning to ski the course the Lyric will be perfect. The same goes for any of the Senates including the Alloy if you find a deal on one of those.

    Edit: I see Brooks and I posted at the same time. Listen to whatever he says, he is the expert.
    In gear. Hit It. Thank You!
    skigirl00
  • Bill22Bill22 Posts: 1,433 Crazy Baller
    Maybe @Shell will share her experience with the Lyric.
    In gear. Hit It. Thank You!
  • skigirl00skigirl00 Posts: 34 Baller
    @Shell do you have any thoughts on the skill level and strength of Radar's Lyric?
  • ShellShell Posts: 180 Crazy Baller
    @skigirl00 I skied all last year on the Lyric and loved the Ski. As I progressed in the course and sped it up the Ski turned for me better and better. My progress last year in the course was constant improvement every set. This year I upgraded my Lyric from the 15' to the 17' and have made several PB's this season so far.(the season is still young) I can't speak highly enough on the Radar Lyric, I love my Ski! Good luck and happy skiing!
    skigirl00
  • ShellShell Posts: 180 Crazy Baller
    @skigirl00 its just a women's built Senate Ski, I'm 90% sure the Lyric is built from the same mold just constructed for lighter weight/women skiers.
    skigirl00
  • DekeDeke Posts: 363 Baller
    @skigirl00 all good advice here. Pay special attention to @brooks since I think he might know a little something about Radar. B)
    skigirl00
  • APBAPB Posts: 136 Baller
    Stay tuned.... there is something special in the coming days....
    skigirl00
  • LobonatorLobonator Posts: 39 Baller
    @skigirl00 I demoed both the vapor and the Senate a few weeks ago. Before demoing I was nearly 100% set on the lithium senate but ended up going with the lithium vapor. The vapor is so stable and balanced that it really made up for my sloppy technique. And I have been skiing it mainly open water the last few weeks and it's been great! Despite being categorized as a pure course ski, I think it is amazing for some aggressive open water.
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,078 Mega Baller
    Fwiw, i doubt the average college student is waiting for the opportunity to pay full price for a yet to be released 2019 when 2018's are all on closeout.
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
    ShellB_S
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