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Orlando area instructors who utilize a boat driver

CnewbertCnewbert Posts: 34 Baller
I’m looking to take my first professional slalom lessons and there was an excellent forum discussion re: everyone’s recommendations for the greater Orlando area. One member also suggested asking if the particular instructor uses a driver, or if they drive and instruct at the same time. Honestly, it never occurred to me to even ask as I assumed there would always be a driver so the instructor could watch the skier with his or her undivided attention. When I called my top two choices from the forum recommendations I found that they don’t use a driver. As noted, I’ve never taken lessons before, but i’m finding it difficult to accept that someone can simultaneously pay attention to driving a boat through a slalom course while effectively watching a skier at all times in their mirror(s). If that turns out to be my only option, then I’ll have no choice. But does anyone know of a quality slalom instructor/ski school that does in fact use divers so the instructor can devote their full attention to watching the skier? Thanks!

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  • skihackerskihacker Posts: 233 Baller
    I've been to a half dozen ski schools over the years, never once had a driver with a coach in the observers seat, but all the tips and pointers have been spot on.
    Cnewbert
  • ski6jonesski6jones Posts: 796 Crazy Baller
    edited August 14
    It they are a reputable slalom coach I wouldn't worry that detail. A good coach can tell what you're doing wrong by the feel while they're driving, unless you're skiing super short line maybe. Skiing with someone that knows how to communicate with you has been the most important to me, and that's a personal thing. You won't know until you go and hear what they have to say. I go to PB Training Center for a week every year. They do both depending on what's going on.
    Carl Addington, Lakes of Katy, Texas
    jayskiCnewbert
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,621 Mega Baller
    I have only been coached once by the driver and it was Jack Travers. He gave me coaching that led me to running my first 35 off in the next set.

    That said I have other than that always had a driver and a coach. In Orlando I have been to Travers and Lucky Lowe.
    Mark Shaffer
    Cnewbert
  • Orlando76Orlando76 Posts: 713 Crazy Baller
    I’ve been to nearly all locations in the area. Will have to say I walked away most satisfied with Lucky Lowe (although not really Orlando). He does his own driving all while turned around bakcwerds fully watching you. And you can ski long line and still hear clearly what he is SHOUTING to you.
    MSskihackerCnewbertneddie
  • AndreAndre Posts: 986 Crazy Baller
    IMO with a good 140 degrees mirror and if you're not skiing agressive 38 off and shorter (and even then...) a good coach/driver will easily spot your weaknesses with glimpse in the mirror at the right moments while keeping a good boatpath.
    KillerCnewbert
  • SteveoSteveo Posts: 58 Baller
    Contact Chris Parrish. Pretty certain he will come to your site then have your regular driver drive. To make it even sweeter for him round up a couple more skiers.
    AndreCnewbert
  • skihackerskihacker Posts: 233 Baller
    Lucky is definitely a different sort, but i got one of my all time best lessons from him a bunch of years back..
    Cnewbert
  • Keith MenardKeith Menard Posts: 388 Crazy Baller
    Cole @ Rinnis place drove and coached....excellent coaching for both my wife and I.
  • ScottScottScottScott Posts: 575 Crazy Baller
    I ski with jodi fisher often. Ocassionallly he'll have someone there that's driving, but usually not. It is amazing what he can see looking in the mirror while driving tho.
    Cnewbert
  • SteveoSteveo Posts: 58 Baller
    @Cnewbert that’s assuming you live in the Orlando area and not visiting.
  • Stevie BoyStevie Boy Posts: 1,719 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    If you go and see Lucky Lowe, your not going to like his method,but if you go with it, your skiing will improve dramatically as you get to the end of your time with him, swiss ski school sometimes operates with driver and coach, not sure about the Boarding School, I go to one particular place where I get individual attention plus the coach drives the boat, I have no complaints, that boat is as straight as a arrow, remember these Guy's have been living and breathing water skiing for a long time.
    Personally I think you should be asking where can I go and be fairly sure that the boat is going to be down the middle, a lot of people go to ski school and ski there best, only to find they cannot repeat it when they go to other sites or there home lake, not always but sometimes, then you have to ask yourself why, if you are honest with yourself you probably know the answer.

    " Change Edge Early or Go Home”

    skierjpCnewbertWishMS
  • CnewbertCnewbert Posts: 34 Baller
    Chris Parrish’s name has not come up yet, Steveo. I’ll Google him and see what I find. I’m not in Orlando. I’m in the Ocala area and it’s about a 1.5+ hour drive to most of these Orlando schools (a little less to Jack Travers). But there’s nothing up here and the Orlando area seems to have a wide choice.
  • SKILIQUIDZONESKILIQUIDZONE Posts: 10 Baller
    We are not in Orlando, but at Liquid Zone in Sacramento, we always have a driver and a coach. We do offer what we call "Shut up and Ski" which is with a driver only but the charge is less than half of a ride with coaching. The weeks that Terry Winter is here, every ride has a driver and Terry Coaching.
    skierjpCnewbertWish
  • AndreAndre Posts: 986 Crazy Baller
    edited August 14
    Google Chris Parrish ?
    Ok.Don't worry too much about having a driver who coach at the same time.
    Most of the serious ski school in Orlando will be able to help you improve.
  • CnewbertCnewbert Posts: 34 Baller
    Yeah, Google Chris to find out where he operates from. Apparently not in Orlando. Sounds like Tampa so that doesn’t work.
  • skierjpskierjp Posts: 598 Crazy Baller
    FYI, a couple cool things to think about. Take a friend and a IPAD or phone. Have the friend ride in the boat videoing and recording the whole session. You may be surprised at what you missed or may have misinterpreted while you were skiing. Sometimes the conversation between the coach and the person riding in the boat can be interesting! You will also have the boat path.
    Rini was great and I hear Kiwi is also.
    It’s also bonus points if the coach you pick uses or helps develop the Ski you ride ( Rini- Radar ) ( Travers-HO) ( Boris-MC ) and extra points if they use the boat you use!
    CnewbertGloersenKeith Menard
  • GloersenGloersen Posts: 791 Crazy Baller
    case in point:
    Cnewbert
  • GloersenGloersen Posts: 791 Crazy Baller
    A vouch for LSP; Kris & Jen have incredible insight and immeasurable experience/knowledge. Sounds cool that Wade is pitching in too. Great people there, not to mention any number of very talented skiers who may show up as well; you’ll take away from LSP valuable lessons to hone indefinitely.
    Cnewbert
  • skierjpskierjp Posts: 598 Crazy Baller
    Only problem I see with the video is the boat should have stayed up next to the skier when Rini was talking to her.
    neddie
  • SteveoSteveo Posts: 58 Baller
    @Cnewbert sent you a PM.
    Cnewbert
  • jimskijimski Posts: 236 Baller
    This is kind of a pet peeve of mine.
    There's no way you can drive a boat straight and watch a skier in the mirror.
    Wishski6jonesskierjpCnewbertjayski
  • Orlando76Orlando76 Posts: 713 Crazy Baller
    I thought CP was up towards Alabama? I will say most sites I’ve been to in Central Florida ( Rini, Jodi, TBS, Lucky) seem to offer one perk over the next. If you lean towards Radar, Rini or TBS, Mapple goes to Kris, if you want general simple pull Kris or TBS, if you want unbiased and true opinion and you are confident in your equipment, Lucky or Kris. For the MOST part all coaching here or any “known” coach is good (the ski community is too small for somebody looking to collect a dollar). The best coaching that’s helped me has been either Lucky himself helping me with gates or KC and a driver at TBS helping me with everything in between.
    Cnewbertmbabiash
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