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Slalom course and public waters

StilesStiles Posts: 2 Baller
I live in Nebraska and am wanting to drop a course in public water but the fish and game warden has told me the course was dangerous to leave in and that we'd probably never get a permit for it to be in the lake. I'm trying to find out from others that have received permission in there state how they went about doing just that. I think I need as much input as I can get so I can have as much ammo as I can. Its the state parks and recreation that has to issue the permit. So please if you respond give me as much as you know so I can put together a great presentation.

I know there are plenty of lakes that have courses in such as Lake Utah, Shasta Lake as well as plenty that are set in the deltas of California.

Any information on this topic would be appreciated
scotchipman

Comments

  • LoopSkiLoopSki Posts: 354 Crazy Baller
    dont think Shasta has had a course in years
  • LeonLLeonL Posts: 2,255 Crazy Baller
    @John Brooks, I wholeheartedly agree. AWSA/USAWS or whatever the name du jour is, should provide a "kit" for making presentations to assist permitting. Also I agree that the growth/maintaining of the sport lies in public exposure not private sites.
    Leon Leonard Stillwater Lake KY - SR Driver SR Judge
    Wishsunperch
  • WIRiverRatWIRiverRat Posts: 47 Baller
    @Stiles send me a message if you want all the documents we put together to get a course permitted on public water in Wisconsin. I'm sure its a little different in Nebraska but you may be able to use some of the narratives etc if you really want to go for it.
    MISkier
  • bigskieridahobigskieridaho Posts: 877 Crazy Baller
    @DaveLemons might have some insight for you. He drops a course in the the river in Idaho every year.
  • MSMS Posts: 4,901 Mega Baller
    Lots of highway dig lakes on I-80 that be awesome ski lakes.
    Shut up and ski
    MISkier6balls
  • dvskierdvskier Posts: 310 Solid Baller
    @MS You’re right, every time I’m on I-80 the dig sites seem attractive to me. Not a lot to stop the wind though. If you put some Layla d Cypress trees in they would grow fast and provide excellent wind protection.
    Could start a trend!
  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 2,202 Mega Baller
    @John Brooks Hear hear!
    John Wilkins- Si non pro sanguine quem ludus ne. #iskiconnelly
    John Brooks
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 2,861 Mega Baller
    @John Brooks yes!

    I would love to have that. I am in Michigan, own a portable and only get to use it illegally.

    I would even pay to have usa waterski fight to get me a permit.
    MISkierJohn Brooks
  • scotchipmanscotchipman Posts: 4,015 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited October 25
    @Stiles The Utah Water Ski Club has a long history of having a slalom course on Utah Lake which is a public lake. The club has been around in one form or another since the 70's, I became president in 2002 and did not have to start from scratch on getting permission. The Utah Water Ski Club gets permission from the state park and Utah State Lands for the course on Utah Lake. Just this year a few of the club members were able to get permission from the state parks to put a course on another public lake in Utah called Quail Creek from October 1st through May 1st as a test.

    You will need to go to the state parks and present to them what you would like to do with as much detail as you can provide. If they are hesitant you could propose a test phase over the winter if the lake does not freeze or other low use times. Tell the state park that you will provide liability insurance and comply with all regulations.

    It may be a hard sale, as mentioned above it would be nice if USA Water Ski @JeffSurdej had some sort of presentation/information you could use when trying to get permission for courses on public water.
    - President of the Utah Water Ski Club
    - Owner at Still Water Lake Estates
    kellybrewermjnelson
  • John BrooksJohn Brooks Posts: 304 Crazy Baller
    @lpskier is another who I think has a lot of experience with public water and courses. In fact I believe he was the leader who held a Eastern Regionals on public water.
  • DaveLemonsDaveLemons Posts: 5 New Baller
    Our body of water was going unused. Getting permission was a non issue. At one time we formed a ski club through USA waterski and insurance was provided as part of the club. Not sure if that is still the way it works but having insurance as a “club” would definitely help. Have some video available of how skiing in a course actually works. Most people have no idea of how controlled of an environment we exist in. We aren’t a bunch of idiots making huge waves while driving in circles.
    davestaxidermystudio.com
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 4,882 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Agree with @MS. Waterloo, IA has a ski club on an interstate dig lake. They do both show and 3-event. When I used to ski there wind was tough...I drove by there recently and trees obscured any view from the interstate today. Back in the day they bought that thing for something like $40K. All the land and the lake.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • dave2balldave2ball Posts: 457 Solid Baller
    edited October 27
    @Stiles the courses out on the delta have been around since the 70’s if not earlier. They also have land usueage leases with the owner of the property. When they were put in the army core of engineers did grant permission. These courses are also in sloughs where there is very little through boat traffic.
    Now a days they would be grandfathered in to any changes. Mike Suyderhoud did have a ski school at Shasta not to long ago which did include a course. I believe it was silverthorn resort. Not to sure if the course is still there. Might be worth a phone call.
    I would start with the army core of engineers first and start gathering information.
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 2,861 Mega Baller
    I have one neighbor who will not sign. Therefore no course permit period end of story.

    State wont issue with out letters of no objection even for portable launched daylight only which is rediculous, pokicy needs to be fought for.
  • LovellLovell Posts: 97 Baller
    Army Corps of Engineers will have jurisdiction for waters that are free flowing to the ocean up to the historical mean high water mark. The California Delta is a prime example. Inland lakes can be governed by a whole host of different entities. Lake Berryessa, for instance, is the Federal Bureau of Reclamation. Shasta is the National Forest Service once you get below the mean high water mark.
    Determining the entity responsible for the lake below the high water mark and approaching them is the key.
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