Radar Senate Pro 35 0ff and better

Is anyone out there running 35off or better consistently on this ski?
I’m 6ft1 190 ponds and currently skiing a Vapour Graphite from 2015.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


  • DirtDirt Posts: 1,538 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    I think @skidawg runs pretty far into 41 on it
    I learned everything I know not to do from Horton
  • Mateo_VargasMateo_Vargas Posts: 814 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I have one and it’s surely capable of 35 off and beyond.
    Success is failure that just hasn't happened yet
  • skidawgskidawg Posts: 3,205 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    I switch to the Senate pro This summer, I ran numerous 39’s and ran [email protected] twice on it and it felt amazing
    Mr. Mom is Horton's favorite movie!
  • skihackerskihacker Posts: 251 Baller
    Any further news on a 65?
  • jhughesjhughes Posts: 824 Mega Baller
    Wouldn't a smaller Senate Pro merely be a Vapor Pro? I don't understand the urgency for a smaller version of a ski that is a larger version of another ski. FWIW I tried both back to back with fin changes, binding changes, and everything and found the Vapor to be the better ski for me by a wide margin.
  • jipster43jipster43 Posts: 1,405 Crazy Baller
    edited December 2018
    @jhughes I gave you an “insightful”, but my logic 101 training leaves me wondering why Radar built the Senate Pro if merely upsizing a Vapor yielded the same results.

    I am a few buoys behind you, and recently I’ve been wondering if a ski like the Senate Pro would be perfect for me. Or would upsizing any of the top end skis meet my needs? I’m a buck-thirty, so a 66” ski is hard to wrap my head around, but @JoelHowley recommends folks my size ski the 66 GTR.

    I’ve also been looking at the KD Platinum. Horton suggested downsizing might be an option with the KD, but at my level I’m wondering if sticking with my standard 65” length would give me added stability and speed.

    I know my real problem is poor technique, but I’m hoping these new crop of skis will give me a better platform with which to achieve better stack.
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 3,054 Mega Baller
    edited December 2018
    I'd say definitely not! I'd go wider > longer anyday. Here you're going to the "surface area" model on @Horton 's birthday!
  • markchilcuttmarkchilcutt Posts: 887 Crazy Baller
    edited December 2018
    Ski it if you can!!!!
  • scotchipmanscotchipman Posts: 4,085 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    No @jhughes The Senate is wider than the Vapor so a 66" Senate Pro has the same ish surface area as a 67" Vapor.
    - President of the Utah Water Ski Club
    - Owner at Still Water Lake Estates
  • Bill22Bill22 Posts: 1,502 Crazy Baller
    @jhughes some of us 15off/22off guys are under the delusion that there is a magic carpet out there with “perfect” balance of forgiviness vs performance. On this hypothetical ski I can ski with subpar technique and run two more full passes.

    @jipster43 I am right there with you, 66” is a lot of ski at a buck 30ish.
    In gear. Hit It. Thank You!
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 921 Mega Baller
    I'm getting an idea for a winter poll thread. How much do you weigh and what's your height? Never knew there were so many guys on the slighter end of the size chart on here.
  • IGskiIGski Posts: 38 Baller
    @UWSkier would the poll include ski model and size we are each running? Sounds like a good new thread to me.
  • vernonreevevernonreeve Posts: 54 Baller
    And what's your max speed and shortest length you run consistently.
  • skihartskihart Posts: 461 Solid Baller
    edited December 2018
    @skidawg are you still on it or back to a vapor?
  • teammalibuteammalibu Posts: 706 Crazy Baller
    @skidawg always kills it on the onside but I thought the senate he rode last summer finished the off side turn better than any ski I’ve seen him on in years including the Vapor!
    Mike Erb Cedar Ridge Canton Miss.
    Horton is my hero
  • DirtDirt Posts: 1,538 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    @Bill22 There is no substitute for good body position, technique and experience BUT I have had a ski be a game changer for me a few times.
    Ex. (Sorry Horton) borrowed HO A2, Chad Scotts 9900 Midride (purchased from Goode not stolen) and Mapple T2.
    All of these skis improved stability and gave me better angle and consistency.
    I learned everything I know not to do from Horton
  • skihartskihart Posts: 461 Solid Baller
    @skidawg okay it’s the real deal then. It’s now on my list right next to the Connelly GTR for a demo.
  • DeanoskiDeanoski Posts: 748 Crazy Baller
    edited December 2018
    If it came in a 66 I would try one 65 is just to small
  • ski6jonesski6jones Posts: 849 Crazy Baller
    edited December 2018
    @Deanoski Don't be so sure. I've tried 67s numerous times before with no joy. Senate Pro 67 was good for me. I've always ridden a 68. 6'5", 195# Fyi.
    Carl Addington, Lakes of Katy, Texas
  • ski6jonesski6jones Posts: 849 Crazy Baller
    Website shows 67 and 69, no 65.
    Carl Addington, Lakes of Katy, Texas
  • skidawgskidawg Posts: 3,205 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    Let me know when you are ready @ski6jones - got your name on one!!!!
    Mr. Mom is Horton's favorite movie!
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