New Prostar or Response

DrbachDrbach Posts: 3 New Baller
2019 Prostar or Response? Looking for opinions. I am a slalom and barefoot guy. Response seemed slow when I tested it. Slalomed only. Top speed was not even 40. I did not barefoot behind it. Loud engine, standard motor.

Do I go larger motor and get more out of it or prop it on the Response?

Do I go Prostar with standard motor or upgraded motor and pay big bucks? I heard the larger MC motor is awesome with a hefty price tag.

How about side spray for either for using the boom, anyone have an opinion? Does the side spray defeat the boom?
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  • MopedMedicksMopedMedicks Posts: 25 Baller
    How much speed do you want/need with 1 footer in tow? And does the barefoot wake/table matter to you?
  • HortonHorton Posts: 26,932 Administrator
    My 2019 ProStar with a 5.7 goes 43 mph. Is that enough?

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  • DragoDrago Posts: 1,435 Mega Baller
    Prostar 🤚
    SR SL Judge & Driver (“a driver who is super late on the wheel and is out of sync”)
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  • vernonreevevernonreeve Posts: 73 Baller
    I was told a long time ago that you shouldn't need to go more than 36mph if your technique is good.
  • igkyaigkya Posts: 609 Crazy Baller
    Prostar, much better slalom wake (skiing 28 & 32 off), can't comment on other line lengths. As for BF, while you shouldn't need more than ~40 mph (depending on your weight), sometimes, faster is better... until you wipeout.
    ballsohardIlivetoski
  • InthedayIntheday Posts: 134 Baller
    34mph (55kmh) to 43mph (70kmh) should cover most Barefoot situations. Really big good guys might want a little more top end but unlikely.

    Wondering what the better footing wake is?
  • RednucleusRednucleus Posts: 202 Baller
    A different prop would probably get the Response the speed you need. My buddy foots behind a 97 Sportster and an 03 Sunsetter - both break 40 easy
  • GolfguyGolfguy Posts: 175 Baller
    ProStar hands down. Prop it for more speed if you like. A strong 40+ should be a perfect speed.The side spray and wake are perfect for both slalom and footing.
  • IlivetoskiIlivetoski Posts: 1,180 Crazy Baller
    Personally I’m not a fan of the new response. I’ve skied 3 or 4 of them never once felt the wake was that good. One of them (i have to assume this issue has been fixed, but this alone would keep me from ever buying one) started ITSELF at a tournament when it was on a lift. No one in or around the boat. Happened twice in one day.

    Go prostar or a year old 200
    Drago
  • Dacon62Dacon62 Posts: 641 Crazy Baller
    Always been a Malibu guy but now have a 17 Prostar. As far as I’m concerned the Prostar is a better boat in all the important areas even though the new Malibu came out 3 years later. That’s why I switched brand loyalty even though I really wanted to like and buy the new Malibu I just couldn’t pull the trigger on it.
    Drbach
  • LoopSkiLoopSki Posts: 461 Crazy Baller
    i use a boom on my 17' Prostar . no problems with spray. plus the sea deck pad sits at perfect place. never been around a txi but the Prostar is hard to beat.
  • markchilcuttmarkchilcutt Posts: 907 Crazy Baller
    Prostar
    Ski it if you can!!!!
  • GregHindGregHind Posts: 316 Solid Baller
    43 with a driver only @Horton
    What’s it like with 4 men in the boat and a footer out the back?
    I’d like a prostar but for me it would have to be a 6.2. I had a run behind a 2014 6.2 prostar a few years ago and enjoyed it. Good speed, I think it was 72-74kph Range with 4 men in the boat. No trouble holding 66pkh.
  • ScottScottScottScott Posts: 749 Crazy Baller
    I've been 42mph with 3 people+driver in boat. Not pulling anyone. 5.7l
    dvskier
  • bkreisbkreis Posts: 293 Baller
    @Drbach I have a late 2018 200 with 33 hours on it loaded. Dm me
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  • ScottScottScottScott Posts: 749 Crazy Baller
    I may be venturing into areas I don't know well enough to comment (tho thats never stopped me before.) But I'm guessing most of the ski boats are set up to be about max RPM when you get into the 42/43mph range. This gets you into a pretty comfortable RPM range for skiing at 34/36, with enough HP to maintain that speed through the course (of course the 6/6.2 being able to do that better with a stronger skier, or jumper.) I would think if there is going to be a significant amount of time barefooting and needing speeds around 40 or more, you'll want to reprop to be in a little lower RPM range for those speeds. That may then not give you the kind of pull you want for slalom, so you may end up having a footin' prop, then a slalom prop.
  • ballsohardballsohard Posts: 191 Baller
    Definitely go for the Mastercraft ProStar!
  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 1,171 Mega Baller
    edited May 10
    If you’re ever going to pull non-tournament level slalom skiers, especially kids under normal speed (anything under 32) the Prostar is the best wake I’ve ever seen. It’s also the best at tournament speed. I’ve heard it’s not as good for trick skiers, but don’t know that’s substantiated and, will you be pulling any of them? Also, is that something that a little ballast can’t handle?
    I don’t think the Prostar is beatable for the criteria you give
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 1,054 Mega Baller
    I wouldn't go with a Malibu until they start putting the new engines in them next year. The 6.0L Crusader is a bit of a dud in the current boats.
    MISkierTheBigHeadjhughes
  • dave2balldave2ball Posts: 545 Crazy Baller
    I would go with the prostar. You will get better slalom wakes at slower speeds. I have skied behind the 6.2 motor in the prostar and it is one of the best slalom rides I have had. I have not had a lot of rides behind the Malibu. It skis great at higher speeds 32 mph +. The unfortunate this is the boat does not have a gear reduction like MC. I do believe you can get the raptor motor in the Malibu which may be a great slalom pull. Do your research on both. Test drive both with the motor you want and decide from there.
  • BrewskiBrewski Posts: 329 Crazy Baller
    Buy a Sanger Barefooter. Great slalom wakes and you can get to and hold 47 for all your pro footer friends.
    DrbachLobonatorDsully
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 2,182 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    My totally biased opinion is the Bu looks like an odd copy of the Prostar. Buy the real thing, you won't regret it. If speed is a problem, call OJ and they'll set you up with a prop that serves your needs...for MUCH less money than a 6.2.
    Scott Calderwood
    Jack Kinne
  • TheBigHeadTheBigHead Posts: 38 Baller
    Go with the prostar.

    The malibu is great during use, but theres all kinds of things that the rope gets caught on. The new drivers seat, clips at the back etc. The pull is great but the boat is super annoying during use.
    Dragojhughes
  • teammalibuteammalibu Posts: 751 Crazy Baller
    Both great slalom boats, Malibu has always had a better barefoot wake!
    Mike Erb Cedar Ridge Canton Miss.
    Horton is my hero
    TheBigHead
  • epnaultepnault Posts: 243 Baller
    Footer and course skier here with a newer ProStar. Of course I endorse the ProStar. I got the 6.2 because I am a bigger guy and need 41mph to long line. It can be achieved with the 5.7 but didn't want to max out my engine all the time. Skiing, features, and build quality is top notch.
  • Niles TaylorNiles Taylor Posts: 56 Baller
    PROSTAR!!!! Totally biased i have never skied a bu, but the answer is Prostar!
    swc5150MS
  • bananaronbananaron Posts: 264 Crazy Baller
    @Drbach Heck I know where you can buy a 2015 Gekko GTR that will be a better barefoot boat and excellent slalom boat for $45000 less. You can take the money buy 3 older boats and flip them for a huge profit.Money in the bank and a boat you will love.
    Ron Engblom Brainerd lakes,minnesota
    Rednucleus
  • DrbachDrbach Posts: 3 New Baller
    So many good responses to this, thanks to everyone for the open mind and opinions. I will let you know what I choose. Leaning towards the MC, large motor, no tower. If it ever warms up here in SE WI, I will test run the MC.
    dvskiingIlivetoski
  • bikesrusbikesrus Posts: 33 Baller
    Just launched our new ProStar yesterday. Loved the room inside, the wakes are amazing at my speed (28-32mph), the user friendly tech features (course mapping finally makes sense), the ski racks, and just the overall thought into how skiers use a boat.
    And it is such a looker😎
    JordanScottScott
  • DrbachDrbach Posts: 3 New Baller
    @bilesrus, what motor and did you get the tower?
    Cnewbert
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