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When are the new junior divisions going to appear on the rankings list???

sunperchsunperch Posts: 229 Solid Baller
We are starting to ski fall tournaments and the kids want to see what the COA for Nationals is for the new G4 and B4 divisions. Is the COA date still the Thursday following Nationals? Are the new divisions available for scoring for entry in the fall tournaments?

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  • klindyklindy Posts: 2,269 Mega Baller
    Good question ... I’ll dig into it.
    Keith Lindemulder
    AWSA Vice President
    AWSA Southern Region EVP
    sunperch
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 1,766 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    The new G4/B4 is simply the old G3/B3 isn't it?
  • klindyklindy Posts: 2,269 Mega Baller
    Either way the new divisions need to have established scores needed to qualify to Nationals.
    Keith Lindemulder
    AWSA Vice President
    AWSA Southern Region EVP
  • DragoDrago Posts: 1,531 Mega Baller
    It's an option on the pull down menu now. I imagine it will take a day or two to get the right kids in their age groups, and then the math will happen.
    SR SL Judge & Driver (“a driver who is super late on the wheel and is out of sync”)
  • DragoDrago Posts: 1,531 Mega Baller
    Or "a few days" :)

    SR SL Judge & Driver (“a driver who is super late on the wheel and is out of sync”)
  • MattPMattP Posts: 5,984 Mega Baller
    If I am not mistaken usually the ranking system only pulls skiers over when division changes happen once they ski their first tournament in the new division. Unless the powers that be pull them over manually it may be a while before we see a "full" list of the new divisions.
  • dislanddisland Posts: 1,303 Mega Baller
    How will they handle national records, Does the first kid to get a score break the national record?
    Dave Island- Princeton Lakes
  • DragoDrago Posts: 1,531 Mega Baller
    @MattP , that was my assumption
    @disland Probably. They retired records many years ago but I don't recall why or which discipline
    SR SL Judge & Driver (“a driver who is super late on the wheel and is out of sync”)
  • MattPMattP Posts: 5,984 Mega Baller
    @disland usually the ranking committee sets a threshold score that needs to be beat to start the record process. It keeps the dozens of submissions from this past weekend from flooding in. I would assume it will be easy to create using the current B3/G3 data.
  • klindyklindy Posts: 2,269 Mega Baller
    edited August 19
    @disland @MattP What's supposed to happen is spelled out in 14.02, which says, in part - "Whenever a new age division is created, or a change is made in the age ranges for an existing division, or a change is made in the performance conditions for an event for an age division, a benchmark score shall be established for that event, unless that benchmark would be lower than the existing record. This benchmark shall be the highest score achieved at the previous National Championships in that event by a skier eligible for the affected division."

    And yes, the goal is to keep the dozens of potential submissions down to a reasonable level.
    Keith Lindemulder
    AWSA Vice President
    AWSA Southern Region EVP
    MattP
  • dislanddisland Posts: 1,303 Mega Baller
    @klindy, well that answers that , Thanks
    Dave Island- Princeton Lakes
  • JeffSurdejJeffSurdej Posts: 515 USAWS Official
    on a plane back from worlds, ill explain all ASAP, but moral of story is lots of work going on right now to handle new divisions which is delaying the nationals cutoff qualifications release as well, things are testing out good so far.
    AWSA President
    Drago
  • sunperchsunperch Posts: 229 Solid Baller
    @JeffSurdej thanks for the update, but it's the rankings list is more messed up now than ever. My daughter who is ski age 17 was in girls 1 ranking list last night, and is in W1 this morning. She should be G4. We are attending tournaments this weekend and scoring is not sure where to put her.
  • JeffSurdejJeffSurdej Posts: 515 USAWS Official
    @sunperch found a bunch of errors. Fixing now. Should be back up soon but what is daughters name so we can verify it’s fixed.
    AWSA President
    walleye
  • sunperchsunperch Posts: 229 Solid Baller
    @JeffSurdej Emma Jorgensen. Thanks!
  • JeffSurdejJeffSurdej Posts: 515 USAWS Official
    All fixed, please help us double check, if you see any errors in junior or w1/m1 let me know
    AWSA President
    walleyeWaterSkier12
  • sunperchsunperch Posts: 229 Solid Baller
    thanks! @JeffSurdej, the others that were incorrectly in M1/W1 are also back in B4/G4.
    walleye
  • jcampjcamp Posts: 778 Mega Baller
    Thanks for bird dogging this @JeffSurdej.

    Quick question: it looks like the Nationals cut off score is the same for Girls 4 as it is for Girls 3 (56.7). Is that correct?
  • JeffSurdejJeffSurdej Posts: 515 USAWS Official
    @jcamp nope, something seems off with G4S
    AWSA President
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