Soul of the Sport maybe in a beer glass

HortonHorton Posts: 24,630 Administrator
edited January 2013 in Classic Threads
Last weekend, I traveled half way across the United States to a tournament. The conditions & opportunity to post a big score were breathtaking. To my own surprise, I really did not care how I skied. Don't get me wrong, I would have liked a big score but once I got there I realized that I was there to hang out with friends and simply enjoy myself. It was more important to drink beer and tell stories than it was to get a good nights sleep and be fresh in the morning.


Back in the day. Way back in the day.  1970s - 80s. Here in the west, skiers all camped on site and hung out all night with each other after the tournament. I think this was / is the real soul of the sport. We skied but and we skied seriously but we goofed around also.


Somehow I think we slalom geeks lose track of fun. There are a few events around the country every year where friends use a tournament as an excuse to party. If you are all ball count and no beer glass, I highly suggest you get in touch with the soul of the sport.


Super big thanks to the Cottonwood and Old Ward's Pond crews

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  • skidawgskidawg Posts: 3,126 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    Amen brutha, that is why I ski!
    Mr. Mom is Horton's favorite movie!
  • scokescoke Posts: 617 Baller
    edited September 2010
     


    Skiing/tourneys:


    30% to ski a tourney


    30% to be around better skiers!


    30% fellowship


     Bad math but it works.


     
  • Ham_WallaceHam_Wallace Posts: 534 Solid Baller
    edited June 2013
    52 Years of skiing has made me realize:


      1. I love the lake


      2. I love skiing


      3. I hate winter


      4. It isn't all about skiing


      5. It is about the lake and "Lake People". (not people that go to the lake)


      6. It is about ripping turns and big air! Headwinds are us!


      7. I love 95 degree weather, and don't mind humidity.(did I mention that I hate winter)


      8. I love trash talking my buddies.


      9. I love hanging out with other "Lake People".


      10. I hate winter!
    Am I a jumper that wants to be a slalom skier? Or a slalom skier that wants to be a jumper?
    Jordan
  • MattPMattP Posts: 5,960 Mega Baller
    Ham I do not think I could have said it better myself!
  • HortonHorton Posts: 24,630 Administrator
    edited June 2013
    HamBone! Good to see you around here.crazy old man

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  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 5,750 Mega Baller
    Although the details of how you enjoy each phase can vary from person to person, I think scoke's percentages are right on.


    The final 10% is "hanging around other people with the same insanity as you makes you think you're sane."
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 2,254 Mega Baller
    Heck you need to come to a Picko's Tournament when Jimbo And Reggie are servin up Margeritas after the dance. But you are right as we only live once and it is a shame to get real wrapped up in scores, we loose contact with what life is all about.


    Michele and I started skiing tournaments in the Early 80's getting in the old GTO and headding down to Helena or Boise, The Crescent bar where ever, We pitched a tent and camped out or eventually got a camper for the old pickup. Never the less it was a lot of fun back then. Here in the southern region during the summer especially in Florida it is rather uncomfortable to camp or stay on site unless one has a motor home.So the Hotel it is!
    Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.


  • boarditupboarditup Posts: 582 Crazy Baller
    The same group of people are still around.  However, the culture has changed.  We don't have the huge number of single people or DINKs (Double Income, No Kids) like back then.  We now have 30's and 40's with kids and far fewer participants without kids.  The increasing cost and the complexity of the sport has significantly changed the demographic - it has moved upscale in terms of income level.


    The result is a newer community that is more like an extended family reunion than a surf beach party.  If we, the site owners, adapt and host more "family reunions" the soul of the sport will remain intact.  The goal is the entire family having fun, not just one member drinking a beer alone.
    Karl DeLooff - Powered by the wind
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 1,693 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    edited September 2010
    Agree 100% boarditup! A "family reunion" is a good way to descibe a lot of our area tourneys. My kids are always excited to go to Logan's (Skidawg's son) house for the weekend. Mad11's daughter baby sat my youngest most of the Cottonwood weekend. The older ones ran around and played with other kids and we didn't worry too much about them as we know all the parents are looking out for each others little ones.


    Seeing friends at that first tournament of the summer is always something I look forward to. How many times have you walked up to someone and asked them "How was your Winter?" Good times 


    (Of course, I'm not gonna be upset with a big score either)
  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,325 MM Trick Skier / Eccentric Person
    So what does it mean when I take Horton out to dinner and he won't drink with me?


    Eric
  • TuneyTuney Posts: 244 Baller
    Ham wallace knows what's up.


    I dont get to ski tournaments... I'd love to but I am just around to make turns at this point in my life. Have some fun while you're out there.


     PS. I'l drink with you eric. 
  • eddie_roberts_jreddie_roberts_jr Posts: 436 Water Ski Industry Professional
    Eric, It either means he's taking his skiing too seriously or you aren't buying. Oh, and I guess it could mean the little wifey has said he's had too much already.
  • eddie_roberts_jreddie_roberts_jr Posts: 436 Water Ski Industry Professional
    John, is that ICE I see in your single malt?
  • jdarwinjdarwin Posts: 1,379 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Every tournament (and tournament site) has a "culture" that is cultivated over years of hosting events.  Our September event has always been more laid back relative to our June weekend.  I believe it is a combination of timing (ski season is over) and participants.  We're fortunate that we attract a great group of people from all over the country for our events.  Although we have some very accomplished skiers, the primary objective is social in nature.  If you are an elitest skier/official, you would find yourself odd-man-out very quickly.  We pull a bunch of PB's and shortlines every year and I believe it is proportionally related to the mood of the entire event.  I can't take credit for this - it is created by the folks who come year after year.   
    Joe Darwin
  • konakona Posts: 529 Baller
    edited June 2013
    Nice Take Ham


    But !!!!!!!!!!!


    In 42 years of skiing snow and temperature challenged snow. (there is no such thing as water just temp challenged snow)




      1. I love the lake and the Mtns


      2. I love skiing what ever the thermometer reads


      3. I love winter and summer


      4. It is all about skiing


      5. It is about the lake and the mtns not the people


      6. It is about ripping turns  and  laying down groover's  and water or snow in my face 

          if you want big air pull my finger    


      7. I love any weather, sunny hot days or a blinding snow storm on a powder morning


      8. I love trash talking my buddies.


      9. I love hanging out with my family


      10. I love winter and summer


      11.  There are no freinds on powder days   but you need freinds when the lake is glass.


      12. I love Football college or NFL
    Bob Boyle - I am my girls father
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,838
    Oh damn, there's the next shirt JTH!


    "If you want big air, pull my finger"
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • HortonHorton Posts: 24,630 Administrator
    Eddie,


    Ice in Bourbon = yes (and nothing else)


    Ice in Scotch= never

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  • east tx skiereast tx skier Posts: 595 Solid Baller
    edited June 2013
    Not a tournament setting, but my wife's family has their annual reunion dubbed the "ski weekend" every labor day.  The water isn't skiable past 7 a.m. or before 7 p.m., but no matter.  I have, for the last three years, been commissioned to brew up approximately six gallons of whatever I see fit to bring.  I rigged up a little dispensing system that holds two 3 gallon kegs pushed by a 20 oz. paintball CO2 tank.  Works like a charm.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 24,630 Administrator
    Eric,


    I have seen what you drink. I do have standards.

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  • HO 410HO 410 Posts: 351 Baller
    East TX, where about in the state are you?
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  • JohnNJohnN Posts: 100 Baller
    Does anyone else feel that the current trend towards one day tourneys and slalom only, entry-limited 3rd tourneys are guiding us away from the social tournament vibe? 
  • skidawgskidawg Posts: 3,126 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    Jth in defense of Eric steel reserve rocks!
    Mr. Mom is Horton's favorite movie!
  • HortonHorton Posts: 24,630 Administrator
    Slalom only is the reallity in the west. Sad but true.


    Often there is a 2 or 3 round Sat and another in the same area Sun.

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  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 1,693 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    Personally, I wish there were 60 skiers wanting to come to each tourney and it was only possible to do a 3 rounder on Sat and Sun. When I started out in N. Texas and Oklahoma that's how it was. We filled in the down time with beach volleyball, basketball, horseshoes, etc. Lots of fun.


     The last few years attendance has been down and having a 3 rounder on each day made more sense. Hopefully the numbers continue to increase and this becomes a discussion to be had.
  • Ham_WallaceHam_Wallace Posts: 534 Solid Baller
    I Love this thread!
    Am I a jumper that wants to be a slalom skier? Or a slalom skier that wants to be a jumper?
  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,325 MM Trick Skier / Eccentric Person
    Ham, you rock. Both with your take on skiing (life!) and your skiing performance.


    John, that algae was supposed to be garnish - not meant to flavor the drink. And your wife asked me for it.


    And standards?! No ice in single malt - ever!


    Tricks rock! Maybe that's the issue. But wasn't Horton's first Nationals medal on a trick ski?


    Eric
  • HortonHorton Posts: 24,630 Administrator
    My first national medal was Jr Boys Slalom 1980 Tyler Tx


    i think

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  • MarkTimmMarkTimm Posts: 86 Baller
    I recently got back into the sport after a 15 year break. I let other things in life take priority and forgot who i was and what was important in life. Obviously family is number one but skiing is a close second. The greatest part has been the fact that my family enjoys their time at the lake almost as much as i do and my daughters are skiing as well. Back in the 80s and early 90's the tournament scene here in the NW was alot like a large extended family some of the best times of my life. Just the other day I was thinking about skiing and the difference between now and then. I came to the conclusion that back in the day I lived to ski now I ski to live.
    Mark Timm
  • Ham_WallaceHam_Wallace Posts: 534 Solid Baller
    No Ice in Single Malt.....EVER! That is the only thing good about cold weather except for snow skiing and duck hunting. Blue/green algae is good for you. Single malt and a good cigar! Now that's tuff to beat. 95 degree weather with a hot night. A few sets and a few chilly ones with your buddies. Now that's almost impossible to beat! I love this thread! Did I mention that I hate winter!
    Am I a jumper that wants to be a slalom skier? Or a slalom skier that wants to be a jumper?
  • konakona Posts: 529 Baller
    "I hate  winter"  


    transitive verb dislike somebody or something intensely: to dislike somebody or something intensely, often in a way that evokes feelings of anger, hostility, or animosity

      


     


     


    opposition in all things right.


     
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