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The $2,000 price barrier has been broken!!

jdarwinjdarwin Posts: 1,379 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
edited March 2011 in Skis Fins Bindings
An ad on Ski-it-Again for the new Sans Rival ski:


http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?topic=Search&postid=14668


I know the Warp broke the barrier several years ago but it was a limited production item and not distributed in the US to a large degree. 


I find it hard to believe that ANY ski is worth $2k.  I've bought complete cars for less.  And, from a marketing strategy, I feel it is a waste of time advertising this on a "used" product website.  Most folks who frequent ski-it-again are looking for deals.  $2k for a new ski is not a "deal".  I hope this price point does not become the norm.


P.S. - but the shipping is FREE!! 
Joe Darwin

Comments

  • Old MS AccoutOld MS Accout Posts: 2,117 Baller
    What more do you want then a 3 year warrenty? Just blow off a few months of the school payments.    
  • RogerRoger Posts: 1,500 Crazy Baller
    Wasn't the Obrien Elite 2 grand when it first appeared? Their current Elite "closeouts" are 1500.00...
    Roger B. Clark - Okeeheelee skier. Senior driver, Senior Judge
  • HortonHorton Posts: 25,665 Administrator
    It was not that long ago that a $1200 or $1400 ski was crazy.

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  • jdarwinjdarwin Posts: 1,379 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    John - it still is.
    Joe Darwin
  • HortonHorton Posts: 25,665 Administrator
    edited March 2011
    If you do that math it really is not that bad. You can not design, build and sell a ski for much less unless you are trying to no make money. There will always be skis like the Vice or C.O.X. if you need to be sub 1K. 


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  • scokescoke Posts: 624 Baller
    cereal
  • ralral Posts: 1,690 Mega Baller
    The warp is a darn good ski... If it was US$ 2,000, it would be selling a lot.
    Rodrigo Andai
  • HortonHorton Posts: 25,665 Administrator
    Scoke,
    Whatever. Writing on phone....

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  • MAD11MAD11 Posts: 577 Crazy Baller
    seems cheap If I could ride it for 3 seasons. Joe should have 2 of these. If I had his money I would burn mine.
  • kstateskierkstateskier Posts: 524 Solid Baller
    it would be easier to stomach a new ski every few seasons if they were still in the $600-800 range with bindings...  but $1200 and up for a BLANK ski is hard to tolerate.  Then when your bindings wear out you've got to drop another $350-400... 


    Which brings me to my next point, why are Animals so EXPENSIVE?  They haven't changed the design in 6 seasons (outside of the color).  
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  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 2,017 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Does anyone know anyone who has ridden one of these?  It would have to be pretty darn awesome!
    Scott Calderwood
  • 454SS454SS Posts: 169 Baller
    it is only 150 $ more than an Elite. Still expensive though.
  • sixballsixball Posts: 211 Baller
    I don't know I think if you see the smile on my face after a really good run it may be worth $1,500.00!!!   Ya it's a lot of money but what isn't in this sport?
  • Ed_ObermeierEd_Obermeier Posts: 1,339 Crazy Baller
    Mad11 wrote "...seems cheap If I could ride it for 3 seasons..."


    I rode an MPD for 3 seasons and would have gone longer if I hadnt come across a decent deal on a new Strada last season.  Still have the MPD and wouldn't be afraid to get right back on it, still skis great.  Got buddies who bought their MPD's the same time I did who still ride them and still ski exceptionally well on them.  I expect to get at least two more years out of my Strada before I consider moving on.  For what these skis cost these days if you can't get 3 good seasons of use out of them then WTF.


    Ed
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  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 1,741 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    It seems like this thread is going the way of the "are you riding a broken down ski" one from a few weeks ago.


     I am sitting here in Crested Butte CO at the moment after a week of snow skiing. I was checking out the skis in the shop and wondering how long the life span of a typical set of high end snow skis is. I mean you literally ride these things for hours per day of skiing. I would imagine that avid skiers hitting the slopes multiple times per week put hundreds of hours on these things during one season. Ice, rails, jumps, an occasional rock... Maybe you serious snow ski guys can shed light on this. 


    I mean really, how much time do we spend actually riding a water ski during a set. Not the 10-15 minutes in the lake, but actually on top of the water? 4-5 minutes per set?  I would pay 2k easily for a ski if there is a guarantee that you can get 3 seasons of normal use out of it. I also don't mind if that makes it weigh 8 oz. more either. 


    As an aside, I have never seen Goode snow skis on the slopes. (Only ski ever year or two though so not much of a sample size)


     
  • HortonHorton Posts: 25,665 Administrator
    Not exactly the same use case. Scoke can you fill in for me here.... I-beam hight - compression - tension - ski thickness yadda yadda yadda

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  • 6balls6balls Posts: 4,881 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I won't break $2K for a specific manufacturers ski when other top of the line skis from other manufacturers are significantly less.  I'm convinced all of the top skis are great skis with excellent durability, and that none of these skis are $1K better than another. 
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  • Ed_ObermeierEd_Obermeier Posts: 1,339 Crazy Baller
    What 6balls said.
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  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,623 MM Trick Skier / Eccentric Person
    Scot, I use Goodes on the snow. I have a pair that is in its 4th season. They still work well but they have softened up a bit. I ride them primarily in the bumps (25 turns per 100' of elevation drop - I skied 20,000 feet the day we had a recording altimeter). They go out 15+ days per year. The Goode wide skis that I use for powder (6+ days/year) softened up after 1.5 years but they still are great in powder. Bumps work the skis harder I would think but both snows flex the skis a lot. I'm pretty agressive on the snow (I'm better than you! GNAR points!). The Salomon bindings broke before the skis (replaced the bindings with Markers - more holes - and just got 5 hard days out of them. Goode snow skis rock and last.


    Regarding $2000 skis, I used to advise people not to build their own skis because it was too expensive. Maybe that thinking is no longer valid.


    Eric
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 2,017 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Scot,


    Back in my alpine racing days, I'd have one pair (for each discipline) dedicated for races only, and went through another one or two pair of training skis (per discipline) each season - which was pretty much July, then Nov-Mar.  If it wasn't for Dynastar, Marker and Technica's generous sponsorships, it would've been tough on my parent's wallet!
    Scott Calderwood
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,887
    JD, How many skis have you bought in the last 18 months and how much did they cost you? ;)
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • KelvinKelvin Posts: 1,059 Crazy Baller
    Hey, I'm trying to keep me and my 2 kids in updated equipment and they are getting more interested in all 3 events.  Since they are still growing the expenses never stop :(.  New boat with ZO (that was for me!!), bigger skis, new vests, jump suits, helmets, trick skis, gloves, . . .  argh!!
    Kelvin Kelm, Lakes of Katy, Katy Texas
  • Old MS AccoutOld MS Accout Posts: 2,117 Baller
    Shane,


    1 of them was free..........
  • jdarwinjdarwin Posts: 1,379 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Kelvin - been there - done that - have the invoices.


    Shane - none of them cost me $2,000!!
    Joe Darwin
  • Nick SullivanNick Sullivan Posts: 676 Baller
    If people were not buying them, the would not make them (let alone sell them).


    I do agree that 2k for a ski is way to much but thats just me and my needs.
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