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2011 Radar Senate C

jaredFishjaredFish Posts: 64
edited March 2011 in Skis Fins Bindings
Got a friend who is thinking of changing from an 05 67.5" D3 x5 to a 2011 Radar Senate C 69". He is 200 pounds, quite tall would say 6ft3(will check). He runs 52km/h(32.5mph) regularly and has run 34mph on a good day. Do you guys think it will be worth changing ski? Is this the right ski for him?

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  • bobunabobuna Posts: 27
    I am 6'3" and about 205lbs. and have been looking into a Senate C among others. would you recommend a 67 or 69 senate C? I only ask b/c most wider skis, you drop the length as far as i can tell and a 69" ski seems quite large.
  • bobunabobuna Posts: 27
    22 off at 34mph
  • Ed_ObermeierEd_Obermeier Posts: 1,339 Crazy Baller
    I'm 6'3" and currently 195, down from 205 last year. I ride a 68" Strada @ 34 mph and a 67" Theory @ 30 mph. Personally for both you guys I'd suggest the 67" over the 69". The 69 is a BIG ski and really more for heavier skiers. Especially as you go up in speed and shorter in line length the 67" is going to work better for you IMO.

    Ed
    Ed Obermeier - owner, EZ-Slalom Course Systems
    www.ez-slalom.com
  • A_BA_B Posts: 3,991 Mega Baller
    I rode the 69"'though 35 off but was not consistent on
    It. I weighed 235-240. The 67"'would be better. I struggled to keep the tip down on really hard turns on the big one.
  • jaredFishjaredFish Posts: 64
    so would you say he should go on a 67 senate c or would he be better off on a 68" vice
  • jaredFishjaredFish Posts: 64
    he finds that on the 67" D3 that he currently rides the ski seems to stall out of the turn, though weather this because of his skiing or because of the ski being to small im not to sure.
  • Ed_ObermeierEd_Obermeier Posts: 1,339 Crazy Baller
    I wish they made the Senate C in a 68" size. If you don't think your friend would be comfortable going with a 67" the 68" Vice would be a pretty darn good choice too.

    The stalling could be a technique thing or it could be a fin adjustment thing, hard to say without watching him ski. Making sure that the fin and bindings are factory or close to it would be a good place to start.

    Ed
    Ed Obermeier - owner, EZ-Slalom Course Systems
    www.ez-slalom.com
  • jaredFishjaredFish Posts: 64
    In the long run the 68" Vice would probably be better than the 69" Senate C due to the fact the Smaller Vice will turn quicker?He is a senior men skier so would the Senate C be a better option because its made for 55km/h?
  • boarditupboarditup Posts: 583 Crazy Baller
    I don't see the issue with the 69" Senate not turning quick enough.... That has never been an issue - especially with the new design. "Do you have sufficient surface area to support the skier in the pre-turn and acceleration phases" is the real question. I always hoped for a 70" Senate at my weight. Radar designs handle speed through the turn very well.
    Karl DeLooff - Powered by the wind
  • Jim NeelyJim Neely Posts: 291 Baller
    edited March 2011
    I agree with boarditup. I'm 205lbs and skied a 69" Senate last year. When set up correctly there is no problem getting it to turn. It will turn as fast as my 68" Strada. The Strada is faster across coarse than the Senate.
    68" Vapor
  • jaredFishjaredFish Posts: 64
    OK thanks for the advice, now the question is Vice vs Senate C, do i take the Senate C as its the 55km/h ski?
  • JC McCavitJC McCavit Posts: 490
    jaredFish, You need to get with your local pro-shop who handles RADAR and ask to demo a 67" Senate, 68" Vice, & 69" Senate. You may also want to demo the 69.5" Vice. If you cannot do this locally, then go somewhere you can. If you lived in Alaska you could demo all 4 of these skis at my site after the ice goes away. Personally, I would start with the 67" Senate if it feels to small go right to the bigger skis like the 69.5" Vice or 69" Senate.
    JC McCavit
  • jaredFishjaredFish Posts: 64
    in south africa, so to go some where else is out of the question.
  • elmarcoelmarco Posts: 2
    i'm going through a very similar decision, trying to decide between a radar senate c and a vice . but as i'm 165lbs, i'm right between the 65'' & 67'' senate.
    running an ho system 8 66'' at the moment and quite like it, but not sure which ho ski to compare to which radar ski.
    for example, s1 vs senate c ? (both 34 mph tournament skis ) or should i be looking more towards the coefficient x's. would really like to know which ho skis
    you guys think compare to the radar senate / vice, thanks
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 3,976 Mega Baller
    Senate C's ROCK ! elmarco - 165 lbs, but how tall are you ?
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • drshreddrshred Posts: 4
    I have a 2011 67 senate c have rode it six times very stable fast,and turns great. Was on a 67 Goode 9600 220 amp just OK. Also rode 68 HO CDX ( Great Ski ) Run 35 off at 34
  • jaredFishjaredFish Posts: 64
    DrShred how tall are you, how much you way?
  • elmarcoelmarco Posts: 2
    i'm 5ft10 ish,
  • drshreddrshred Posts: 4
    JaredFish, 5ft11in 205lb Drshred
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 3,976 Mega Baller
    elmarco - OF was skiing on a 67" SenateC that I handed down, and did very well @ 34 mph into -35. The 65 might be a little small
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
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