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Do you work out during "The Season"

PT MikePT Mike Posts: 163 Baller
edited June 2012 in Technique & Theory
48 year old Men 4 skier 5'11" Medium frame. Got pretty hardcore last fall with a cardio workout and personal trainer. Went from 200lbs. down to 180. I'm in the best shape now since I was 25. Buoy count hasn't improved...yet. I try to ski 2-3 times per week and sometimes double down on the weekends. Work out is down to one hour with the PT plus 1/2 hour cardio tues. & thur. eves. With skiing in full swing it's hard to get a night off. I know most guys ease off the gym during ski season but with the results i got I'm having a hard time letting it go. Thoughts?
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  • 6balls6balls Posts: 4,842 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    No time for both, life is just too busy. Light core work at home, have not seen the gym since April. Always irritated my comp bench press competitors that I hit the gym only 6 mo's/yr and was setting records.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • RichRich Posts: 248 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    do a dynamic work out 2x per week. Box jumps, plyo drills, intervel work, Power cleans once every 10 days, medium weight 10-12 reps 3 sets no cardio other than intervel training. No bodybuilding stylye workouts.

    I personally do Bikram (HOT) Yoga 5-6 times per week 105 degree room 26 postures 90 minutes I'm 55 yeras young 5'7" 162 LBS 8-10 percent body fat.
  • RichRich Posts: 248 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    the dynamic work out lasts 25-30 minutes
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,545 Mega Baller
    I am down 30 pounds since last year and I am still going to the gym. I am doing 3 days a week of mostly strength work plus trying to get out on the paddle board a couple of times a week. On tournament weeks I drop a workout and take Fridays off. I am skiing 4-6 times a week but I live on a lake so it doesn't take a ton of time.

    It has been good for my buoy count.
    Mark Shaffer
  • McGruderMcGruder Posts: 24 Baller
    My weight lifting workouts must be cut back a little during the ski season. I cut the weight down but keep reps up. I found it difficult to keep the heavy weight routine and ski. My poor old body just cannot do both. Perhaps I need to eat more meat.
  • Nick SullivanNick Sullivan Posts: 676 Baller
    I still do cardio as much as I can. Maybe, 2 or 3 times a week. I guess I just like to eat too much so in order to maintain my weight I must do cardio. I ski at least 4 times a week and if I am lifting in there I notice my skiing is not as good.

    I feel bad however not working out, it really kind of bums me out because I feel I should be working out.
  • Nick SullivanNick Sullivan Posts: 676 Baller
    Right on Chef, thats awesome.
  • jimbrakejimbrake Posts: 1,217 Mega Baller
    Generally ski Wed, Fri, Sat, and Sun so try to do a couple of other workouts on Mon, Tues, Thurs. I do a short pullup/pushup/crunch progression that doesn't take much time, but is very difficult followed by some windsprints, then do 1-mile+ open water swims on Tues and Thurs. 54, 6'0", 195. Been that size forever. Workouts will change in the fall for snow skiing.
    "...all of the basic fun banter"
  • MSMS Posts: 4,835 Mega Baller
    Ride bike and swim. Thats it.
    Shut up and ski
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,020 Mega Baller
    I generally agree with @Rich. Dynamic stuff and stretching are the key elements at this time of year. I only do static strength work in the winter.

    Some cardio is always good, and even more so if you are above ideal weight. (Aside: I just hit my semi-official scrawny-dude target of 167 this morning. Look out purple line! :) )

    I personally expend about 3x as much energy in a tournament set as in a practice set, so that cardio base is also useful to avoid being completely gassed.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • dave2balldave2ball Posts: 439 Solid Baller
    Hitting the gym is great during the season. Personally I try to ski first and then push weights and then cardio for 45 minutes X 2 days in a row and then on the third day I do just cardio. When a tournament is the next day I take it easy and do just cardio. On the water trainning I will run back to backs x 6 passes on windy days or days I just want to work on certain things. great way to change it up cardio wise.
  • dislanddisland Posts: 1,176 Crazy Baller
    @rich That work out routine is awesome. Thats how to keep skiing well as you get older. I need to step it up
    Dave Island- Princeton Lakes
  • Texas6Texas6 Posts: 2,172
    @PT Mike, I struggle with the same thing. I just can't seem to let go during the ski season, and I believe my skiing suffers a little because of it. But when you work hard all year, you feel like you lose everything if you stop hitting the gym. I get it. I go pretty hard in the off season, use a trainer, etc. I'm 5'11" and 165lbs and normally hit the gym 4 times a week. I ski approx 3 days a week during the season and often two sets on Sat & Sunday each. I've found out what works best for me is:
    *No workouts on ski days (just some light warm up prior to skiing)
    *No deadlifts or heavy legs the day before skiing (particularly the deadlifts will ruin my set and add injury risk)
    *Take one day off per week no matter what to recover
    *Stretch every day without fail
    Daryn Dean - Lakes of Katy, TX
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  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    Just skiing and some planks and stretching.
    Jim Ross
  • KlundellKlundell Posts: 432 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    I was talking to Chris Rossi about this last year and he said he feels like he had his best seasons when he was trading buoy time for gym time. He then relayed a story of him and Jamie riding 50 miles on a bike, rock climbing until they couldn't hang on one more hold, and then going to run 39. Since then I've tried to keep working out during the season but with that said I'm only hitting about 2-3 crossfit style/strength focused workouts a week.
  • bigtex2011bigtex2011 Posts: 406 Crazy Baller
    more skiing less gym...i think the gym hurts skiing during the ski year...i agree with MS swimming and biking
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,020 Mega Baller
    Rossi and Beachesne are rare specimens. Even when I was that same age, if I did something like all that would happen is I'd get hurt.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • scotchipmanscotchipman Posts: 3,967 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    During the ski season I try to ride my bike on off days, when I miss a day of skiing then I may hit the gym.

    When I hear pros saying they ski less than you would expect you have to take into account they when they were young (teens) they likely skied A LOT to get where they are. Many pros in their 20's/30's have likely skied more lifetime sets than many of us in our 40's/50's!
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    - Owner at Still Water Lake Estates
  • thagerthager Posts: 4,223 Mega Baller
    As I get older I ski less. Every third day is about all I can handle in my fifties. Body just doesn't recover like when I was younger and skiing all day everyday. One summer in the 70's my ski bud and I put 1500 gallons through the Nautique. Of course fuel was $.50/gallon then.
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    I think there is some value to working out during the season in that it uses all your muscles in a full range of motion. I did a leg workout at the gym on Monday and it was actually funny that the next day my legs felt stronger than they had before. Rather than being tired, they felt great. Might have to start squeezing in some gym time. Can't ski with this blasted low back right now anyway!
    Jim Ross
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,545 Mega Baller
    I had a tough workout last night that included military presses, pullups, lunges and a few other things. It definitely showed in my skiing this morning but given the overall results for me this year I am willing to have a practice set that I ski a little tired in exchange for skiing much better when I am fresh. I have deadlifts on Friday although I am thinking of doing them this afternoon sometime so I am fresher for the weekend.
    Mark Shaffer
  • GAJ0004GAJ0004 Posts: 1,053 Baller
    edited June 2012
    I bike and rollerblade when I can't get out on the lake. I ski 2-4 days a week during the season, but I typically ski 2 sets of slalom and 2-4 sets of tricks. I will add a barefoot run and some kneeboarding when time permits.
    Gary Janzig Streetsboro Ohio, skis at Lake Latonka, Mercer Pennsylvania slalom,trick,kneeboard,barefoot
  • PatmasterPatmaster Posts: 148 Baller
    51 years and a few surgeries old. Still skiing brings me to the best shape ever. I also do Bikram (hot) yoga, but not as much as @Rich. Good to control the weight. Moderate targeted gym workout, moderate alternative like hot yoga, a lot of targeted warmup before skiing and never more than 2 sets per day. The key word obviously being - moderate. Except in competition...
  • matt_bmatt_b Posts: 64 Baller
    50, have had a few surgeries, back, knee, rotator. Ski a 2-3 times a week in course. I decided to do some Triathlons, so I've been running, swimming and biking allot. Have lost nearly 20 lbs. Need to get back in the gym, been working on core mainly at home. Really enjoying the swimming workout with a coach doing drills ect. Everything is feeling good !
  • skiboynyskiboyny Posts: 166 Baller
    54 years old. I work out faithfully all winter and struggle during the summer about how to combine it with skiing. I only am able to ski 2 or 3 times a week. I try to workout on off days and get 24 hours between skiing and working out. The skiing is conditions driven so it could be any day any time. Very hard to maintain any kind of schedule. I might get 1 to 3 workouts in a week. In one way it helps but I believe it also lends itself to increased injury's (pulled muscles and the like) One thing is for sure It's easy enough to regain all my strength once skiing is over. You have to cut yourself slack during season after all we sort of train for an event it's time to let the event happen. Believe it or not maintaining a good diet is much more important. Now if only I could talk my stubborn self in to listening to that......
  • crashmancrashman Posts: 722 Crazy Baller
    I try to recover from each outing with some 12 oz barley pop curls and on a good week I might get a few sessions of horizontal thrusts
    slalom addiction triggering irrational behavior
  • cwillygoodcwillygood Posts: 195 Baller
    i mountain bike, i feel that keeps my cardio up
  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,208 Mega Baller
    I ski best if I'm working out regularly on top of skiing regularly. The only time working out messes up my skiing is during the first couple of weeks while getting back to the gym after a long layoff.
    www.FinWhispering.com ... Your ski should be your dance partner, not a wrestling opponent
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