The Inevitible Mid Season Slump

Texas6Texas6 Posts: 2,115
edited July 2012 in Mostly Slalom
Am I the only one lucky enough to experience this phenomenon? Every summer I begin the season making moderate progress, and about this time I begin taking steps backwards. I used to think it was my body breaking down and getting tired, but I'm certain that isn't it this year. It's my form and my rythm that begins to break down. Does anyone else experience this? Any prevention tips are welcomed....I know....video
Daryn Dean - Lakes of Katy, TX
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  • skier2788skier2788 Posts: 645 Crazy Baller
    No advice but i feel your pain.
    Travis Torley
  • WishWish Posts: 6,809 Mega Baller
    YEEEEEES !!! tonight in fact. I have been at 80% with my 35s and alot of that had to do with fin changes. Then out of the blue a have this scrappy 32 and could not put away a 35. Like 5 attempts. Kept sticking the ski at 1 or 3 or 5. Aaaaaaaaaah! Ok this is not a slump.....erase erase erase!!
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
    Texas6
  • ToddFToddF Posts: 441 Baller
    I seem to get it every year as well. And what helps me the most is pulling harder (being aggressive). I start thinking that everything should be easy and I don't have to be aggressive in the course to run my 28's and 32's, then at 35 I am out of the rythm. Today I just cranked and it felt good, seems like the warmer water just makes me have to work harder.

    That is what helps me: run my 32's like they are 35's
  • BoodyBoody Posts: 613 Baller
    Yes, I just got out of one, it sucked. I took some time off, cut back on my skiing a lot. This allowed me to "re-group" and even delete some of my bad habits. When I went back out on the water, things were better but still not as good. Instead of getting mad, I tried some things and a couple of them seemed to work great.

    Stay with it, sit back, assess. Evaluating your skiing off the water can be as helpfull if not more than on the water practice.
  • Nick SullivanNick Sullivan Posts: 676 Baller
    Boody I'm there now, feeling beat up too. May need to take a break and maybe just focus on doing some cardio for a week. Then come back with a clear head.
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,816
    Daryn, I took the wing off of my A2 today due to the 98 degree water. SO much better!
    Shane "Crash" Hill

    Texas6
  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,169 Mega Baller
    I was struggling with -32, then 10 days ago, I added .007" to DFT and picked up a pass and a half the next set just by freeing the ski up to turn easier in our summer water. I wanted to leave the fin alone ... but I'm glad I didn't.
    www.FinWhispering.com ... because understanding is better than memorizing
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  • Texas6Texas6 Posts: 2,115
    Lots of good advice here, thank you! Considering this happens to me EVERY season about this point, I like the water temp theory a lot. I'm going to play with the wing a bit and maybe even try removing it to see what happens. Thx!!
    Daryn Dean - Lakes of Katy, TX
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  • LeonLLeonL Posts: 1,931 Crazy Baller
    Water temp is a big factor, but most slumps can be traced to failing to put proper emphasis on our gates. We just seem to neglect that and concentrate on other finesse items. Try to be sure you're getting the best gate possible and see if your slump goes away.
    Leon Leonard Stillwater Lake KY - SR Driver SR Judge
  • HortonHorton Posts: 23,827 Administrator
    I have gone backwards a little so last few sets I have done the following:

    Try to think about what really worked earlier in the season. Back to basics.

    Also not burning up the rope. Running a lot of mid range passes. For me it is 32 off. Going out and running 36 or 48 balls in a set as smooth and technical as possible. Staying away from top pass.

    Doing this I think I rediscovered what I need to get back to where I was.

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  • 35 in the bag35 in the bag Posts: 76 Baller
    The water temp thing can be like a dog chasing its tail on some bodies of water. On Lake Jepawhit in Michigan for instance, the temp will vary 10 degrees from one end to the other depending on wind conditions. More over, during tournaments when we have constant boat activity, even on calm days the temperature varies significantly from one spot to the other. I have noticed this when swimming to change out buoys for slalom to jump. I bet I have felt 20 degree surface variations within 20 feet. Maybe this explains some of the buoy gremlins that affect some of the skiers.

    JIII
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  • Texas6Texas6 Posts: 2,115
    Good call @Horton. I have been climbing the rope a bit quicker towards my best pass, and skiing fewer form passes. Time to get back to the basics a bit. It's just near impossible not to cut the rope when you run a really smooth form pass:)
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  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 5,652 Mega Baller
    Lots of good points above. Also worth a shot: Chiropractor and/or massage therapist. Good ones can undo a lot of dysfunction that can set in from over-specialization.

    In fact, this thread reminded me to make an appointment with Larry the Massage Guy. I'm not really in a slump exactly, but I've definitely leveled off just when I thought I was about to take a leap.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • BoodyBoody Posts: 613 Baller
    @Than Bogan "Larry the Massage Guy" LOL

    He better be good! I have never had a male give me a massage, a guys hands rubbing all over my body....gross
    Killer
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 5,652 Mega Baller
    Hah. A real massage has no rubbing! More like an all out assault on seized muscle fibers. All pain with lots of gain. Few women are strong enough to do it well, actually.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • WishWish Posts: 6,809 Mega Baller
    Does Larry "Getter done"? Sorry, had to say it. I think I found my slump issue. The warm water has also affected boat speed. We spin into the course and found that the boat was not up to speed soon enough along with the fact that I changed my pull out to a bit sooner. I think our lake has jumped 8 degrees maybe more this week. It's been HOT and with little to no rain. I kept feeling like I was pulling out in mud. Up the boat speed through the spin and hay 35s were dropping again. But what a mind game that played on me. Not out of the woods though as the confidence has been trashed. Need many no miss 35s before the MW Reg. With an older boat and an older PP, this may also be worth checking.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • jimbrakejimbrake Posts: 1,156 Crazy Baller
    interesting thread @Texas6. Thanks for starting it. I battle this every year, too. Last few years my early season starts off very good. Simple approach, simple thoughts that are easy to execute. Skiing starts to progress, then.....the thoughts start. "I should try ____." "The most important thing to do is____" "Always, wait no, never _____" Pretty soon I've got so many "must dos" in my head that I lose sight of what is important in my skiing and it all goes to s___. The Monday before regionals after two practice sets I was looking for a gun, ready to end it. Then Tues I remembered what I was working on in April that worked so well and had a semi-decent practice ride. Sort of pulled it together for regionals (not great, but didn't go down on my opener). Now I'm back on track. So, for me it's just back to basics, nail those, repetition, keep it simple, etc.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 23,827 Administrator
    @Bruce55
    I would love to have time for 1/2 of that

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  • WishWish Posts: 6,809 Mega Baller
    With all that cash, JTH can hire me to receive the regular chiropractic adjustments and deep tissue massages. That should open plenty of time for Johns to do the cardio, and TRX workouts. What's say you @Horton? I can start anytime.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 23,827 Administrator
    Yea all that big website cash... funny

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  • HortonHorton Posts: 23,827 Administrator
    edited August 2012
    @Brent MmmmHmmm I will get right on that. I only have two full time jobs at the moment. Why not?

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  • GAJ0004GAJ0004 Posts: 1,023 Baller
    Take a couple of days off from the course. The first day back after skiing a tournament I leave my slalom ski on the shelf for a day, and do some barefooting. I do extra trick skiing since it does not take as much muscle.
    Gary Janzig Streetsboro Ohio, skis at Lake Latonka, Mercer Pennsylvania slalom,trick,kneeboard,barefoot
  • HortonHorton Posts: 23,827 Administrator
    edited August 2012
    Solved. I changed skis and ran 38 second set on Jobe. Just keep changing skis.

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  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 5,652 Mega Baller
    @Horton. Wow, I just realized I'm doing exactly that: Just ran -38 and my very next set will be on a new ski. I didn't realize this pathology was contagious!!
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • markchilcuttmarkchilcutt Posts: 773 Crazy Baller
    I am thinking time off the water at this point. I had a 2 week period that i coulsd not get past 1 @ 35 with a tourny approaching!!! i showed up with zero expectations this last saturday at the tourny and boom tied my tourny pb of 3 @35. It has been 4 days since ive skied and it feels good to be away. The goal is 2 weeks off of the handle and some mtn biking instead.
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  • 35 in the bag35 in the bag Posts: 76 Baller
    I don't seem to have them (mid-season slumps that is). Our season is so short here in Michigan that by the time mid-season rolls around it's over and time to go fishing.
    John M
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    Now I know it is..
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 4,529 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I build to where I'm skiing well and feel 38's are about to be gravy ALL the time, so I take a lot of shots at them and almost always I progressively start to stink. Then I go to @razorskier1's place for a week and ski far too many passes with not enough rest and it gets even worse. Then take enough time off that I can tie my own shoes and go back to basics in order to make a push in the fall season. Tonight felt as good as I have in 10 days despite big wind.
    My vote is enough rest to be effortlessly strong, and back to basics. Run some longer passes and make 'em easy.
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  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 4,891 Mega Baller
    I usually do what Horton said about dropping back a pass from your hardest full pass and run a lot of them. For me it is running a brunch of 28s. A few weeks ago I was feeling in a bit of a rut and spent a week running 28s then went out and ran a PB in a tournament.
    Mark Shaffer
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,417 Mega Baller
    Drop back to an easier line and ski it perfectly. Sets your head right and lets you get ready to go short again. Also a nice physical and mental break from always shortening the line which, while fun, can sometimes stress you out too much. Last two days I've only skied one set. Yesterday skied 28, 32, 35, and then four 32s. Felt like I was really getting some things dialed in and it was easy and fun. Today eight 32s. Again, worked on just one thing (keeping my shoulders level at all times) and had a blast running very consistently good passes. Tomorrow and over the weekend I'll start cutting the line again.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 23,827 Administrator
    Naaa just change skis. I am doing it again tomorrow.

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