196 Bimini

doonezdoonez Posts: 150 Baller
edited April 2013 in Boat Talk
Finally installing a Bimini on our 196 and after looking at a few photos on the Internet people put them on different ways round. Which way is best and are there any tips and tricks for installing them (drilling all the holes etc)? Also at one end there are slits in the fabric to allow you to put a strap around the frame and it will hold but at the other end there is no such thing. Just looking at it I doubt if there would be enough friction to hold it in position - what are we meant to do here? Sorry for the pictures appearing upside down - I'm not sure what's going on there (no they weren't taken upside down)
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  • A_BA_B Posts: 3,770 Mega Baller
    I have seen the front straps in the metal breather plates to avoid drilling in the gel coat. The straps really didn't blur my vision driving, so I wish ours came like that. They also had the back straps mounted in the step pad, but the rope was hitting them at 38. I would not do that if you have guys skiing short rope.
  • WishWish Posts: 6,750 Mega Baller
    Pic #1 backwards. Pic #2 forwards. IMHOimageimage
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • doonezdoonez Posts: 150 Baller
    @AB where are these breather plates? Do you mean the slits at the base of the windscreen?
  • A_BA_B Posts: 3,770 Mega Baller
    Yes. Air intakes on both sides at base of winshield. This makes the straps go in front of windshield, but not a big deal. Two less places to get stress cracks.
  • doonezdoonez Posts: 150 Baller
    @Wish yes looking at it I think I'd run with the red boat way (I also think it looks better and possibly more functional). Although where these boats seem to have a metal pole at the front/back we have simply got a strap which looks like it will slip down (see RHS of my middle pic (when it's the right way up)).
  • thagerthager Posts: 3,790 Mega Baller
    edited April 2013
    I attached the rear metal strap mounts in the floor even with the pylon. Bimini mount is on the windshield frame. The front metal strap mounts are drilled into the fiberglass. If you drill into the glass drill in reverse until you are through the gel coat to help prevent chipping. Be sure what is directly below your drill point first!
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  • doonezdoonez Posts: 150 Baller
    @AB how do they attach there? Do you clip them straight to the grill?
  • doonezdoonez Posts: 150 Baller
    @thager what do you mean "I attached the rear metal strap mounts in the floor"? Interesting that you put the Bimini mounts on the windscreen frame. I'm not sure if we'd be able to do that because ours is rounded but we have flat based mounts. I suppose it could be done if you sanded it to the right shape but I don't know if I'd be confident drilling into the windscreen frame!
  • thagerthager Posts: 3,790 Mega Baller
    Hmmm. Didn't attach photo? Trying again. As far as the straps go you can rivet them in place wirh dress pop rivets.image
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  • doonezdoonez Posts: 150 Baller
    edited April 2013
    Oh I see. Do they get in the way there? What are the benefits of doing it like that?
    mwski
  • thagerthager Posts: 3,790 Mega Baller
    edited April 2013
    @OB. You actually need a bimini in hotLanta. Week or two tops in S. Canada.
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • thagerthager Posts: 3,790 Mega Baller
    @ Doonez. Don't seem to. Mine is also shorter in height than most to keep out more sun out on the two days of summer.
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • WishWish Posts: 6,750 Mega Baller
    edited April 2013
    Hopefully you all think of biminis as more then just a way to get out of the heat. They are IMHO the best way to keep yourself out of the suns harmful rays. Not to be a downer here or your mother but put the bimini up even if the temps are not hot. New statistics just out. Skin cancer is now nearly as prevalent as all other cancers combine and appears to be getting worse.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,807
    Spend the bucks on the poles. SO much better.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • doonezdoonez Posts: 150 Baller
    @Wish totally agree no fun being burnt
  • A_BA_B Posts: 3,770 Mega Baller
    @doonez, the installation is on a friends boat up in Michigan, and I have not seen it since last summer. So I am not sure how they mounted it. I do remember it was drilled into the top plate. Could probably use small bolts with lock washers and nuts to hold the loop that you clip to.

    This is the first boat I have owned with a bim and will never boat without it. I have had enough skin problems.
    doonezWish
  • BlueSkiBlueSki Posts: 450 Crazy Baller
  • east tx skiereast tx skier Posts: 588 Solid Baller
    Ours came like this. Works well and no issues in the rare instances this boat has pulled 38 off.

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  • MSMS Posts: 4,290 Mega Baller
    edited April 2013
    08 196. This is a GMI bimini I think. Check out the grin on @OTFs face.
    Shut up and ski
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 3,913 Mega Baller
    the guy that builds my promo's bimini has got it figured out

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    MattPWish
  • MSMS Posts: 4,290 Mega Baller
    @Richard Keeps the snow out.
    Shut up and ski
  • WishWish Posts: 6,750 Mega Baller
    edited April 2013
    @Richard NICE! window mounts always look good to me. Carbon Pros are a good example. I had a similar zip-in/snap on as part of a custom bimini for my old Supra. @east tx skier. Mine is mounted the exact same way on my SN and has seen 39-41 skiers without issue. @MS is he smiling or giggling about your bimini being on backwards? ;-)
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • MSMS Posts: 4,290 Mega Baller
    @Wish That is not backwards. That is the way they are supposed to be.
    Shut up and ski
  • WishWish Posts: 6,750 Mega Baller
    @MS there ya go passing the buck.... Well then, .."they" ...got it backwards. ;-)
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 3,913 Mega Baller
    @wish - if they are backwards like that, they collapse forward and stack nicely in front of the windshield, but you're correct - that is backwards
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • doonezdoonez Posts: 150 Baller
    @richarddoane does the cover fit over when its collapsed if you have them backwards? Will it not if we install it conventionally?
  • WishWish Posts: 6,750 Mega Baller
    edited April 2013
    @doonez, Both my boats had what we are saying is forward/conventional and both fit/collapse infront of the windshield with covers. It's because my first boat and second boat were done this way (forward) that everything else looks backwards. My boats both had the bimini slightly tipped/slanted down in the front so they do not catch wind and balloon up. I adjust that slant until the pressure is equalized (close as I can get it) when at speed as to not have down or up force from forward speeds. That meant a little tipped down in the front in both case. I think a bimini that is being forced down or up at speed (same for loose floppy ones) can actually affect performance like a sail. And tipped down a bit just looks better IMHO.


    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • WishWish Posts: 6,750 Mega Baller
    Pic 1 to little slant
    pic 2 to much
    pic 3 about right, tight and forward/conventional
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
    doonez
  • MSMS Posts: 4,290 Mega Baller
    Pic 3 needs to be lower. If you took the back down a bit on pic 2 you would have it perfect.
    Shut up and ski
  • WishWish Posts: 6,750 Mega Baller
    Perfect is relative to the design of the bimini IMHO. If you are going for no down or up force but neutral as possible, pic 3 may be OK. Having that same one very taught also make a difference and generally a positive one. For me, the tighter the better. Should be able to bounce a quater off of it. But agree a hair lower would look nice and would have better clearance to walk under to the seat.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
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