2013 Connelly Prophecy Review

HortonHorton Posts: 23,681 Administrator
edited July 2013 in Ski Tests

Connelly
The first two generations of the Connelly Prophecy were fun to ride and a joy to review because they were unique. The first generation ski was a challenging ski to master with radical tendencies. The second generation ski was substantially more user friendly but still not to the tastes of many shortline skiers. The 2013 ski is the third generation Prophecy, it is the best ski Connelly has produced in 20 years, and one of the very best skis I have ever reviewed.

General Feel:

The Prophecy flows from ball to ball on easy passes and then displays remarkable forgiveness for skier mistakes at the limit. There are some skis on the market today that feel great for easy passes, but do not deliver when things get hectic. There are also skis that feel awkward on easy passes,  and then come to life when the skier nears their limit. The Connelly Prophecy feels good underfoot from your first pass to your last. This ski gives the skier everything they need to reset their expectations.  

Many modern skis get additional stability by being wider. The Prophecy is a more traditional shape and archives stability by sitting deeper in the water. A byproduct of this stability is that the skis attitude, or tip height, is constant throughout the course.

Toe Side (Off Side) Turn

If there is one attribute that defines this ski, it is the way it turns the off side. When you reach apex and begin to move to the inside, the ski simply changes direction. With some skill and patience it will carve a smooth tight arc to the inside. If pushed, it will snap around at a remarkable rate. Either way will result in massive angle back to the wakes. Skiers who excel at keeping their shoulders level will be rewarded with addition angle and control.

The off side turn is fast and the angle is acute but the turn is not sliding or unstable. The Prophecy delivers a nearly foolproof off side turn.

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Heel Side (On Side) Turn

The on side turns are somewhat rounder and more flowing than the off side turns and are still fast and the result is massive angle. The Prophecy can be made to turn on side without a lot of front foot pressure, but the ski tends to lose water speed if you do so. With at least moderate front foot pressure approaching the apex, the ski will flow back to the inside with ample water speed. 

From Ball to Second Wake

If you make a calm and controlled exit from the ball line, the Prophecy will maintain your angle and create more if needed. If you make a mistake at the ball, and stay calm, the Prophecy will make up angle all the way back to the first wake.

When things are going as planned the Prophecy is at least sufficiently fast. If you panic and drop your shoulder, the Prophecy will generate a shocking amount of cross course speed.    

From Second Wake to Ball

If the definition of a “fast ski” is “a ski that will get wide and make space in front of the ball even if the skier fails to manage the rope”, then the Prophecy is a very fast ski. The Prophecy delivers more of a feeling of early than a feeling of wide. The ski gets wide but does so with a long arcing pre turn.

Quirks & Notes

Skiers who can relax and ski less aggressively will get the most from this ski.

If there has to be at least one thing to dislike about the Prophecy it is the fin block. The one piece block without set screws can be a challenge to work with.


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Conclusion:

Best ski ever? There is no such thing. Is it my personal favorite review ski to date? Yes.

 

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Comments

  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,807
    One thing that a couple of elite skiers have noted after having watched me ski on the Prophecy is that it continues to turn all the way to the first wake.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

    HortonBrian_M
  • swerveitswerveit Posts: 201 Baller
    great review, I actually bought the last prophecy based on feedback and reviews from BOS.
    *power to the website*
    @Horton (or anyone else) could answer as you have experienced both 2012 & 2013 prophecy`s.
    what would you say the main differences between the 12 &13 version?

    I love the 12 but don't feel its quick enough behind the boat, extremely stable and forgiving. is the 13 any quicker or slower?
    (maybe quick is not the word i just feel it takes more effort to get the whip,)
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,807
    The 13 is the least effort ski I've been on. This includes the A2, A3, and Mapple. When you need it to be, it is a lightning bolt and then bleeds off speed so you don't over run the boat.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

    MattPswerveit
  • swerveitswerveit Posts: 201 Baller
    edited July 2013
    thanks @shane, don't suppose you went on the 12?
    interesting you say the mapple, I had an Elite and that was by far the quickest ski ive ever been on, all be it bipolar! little dip of the shoulder and BOOM your gone to the next ball... then creeeeeep slowly slowly, *wobble* slower around the ball. then BOOM off to the other side.

    basically I got the 12 and I need to justify the change, i just wish my prophecy was a little quicker... (bare in mind i ski on cooler water that most)
  • skibugskibug Posts: 1,883 Crazy Baller
    I am on a 2012 also (should be on the 2014 in a few weeks). The biggest difference between the 2012 and 2013 is the core material; went from PU to PVC core. It is supposed to effect the rebound rate of the ski; meaning that after the ski reaches its maximum flexion, just past the apex of the turn, it snaps back to shape (i.e. straigtens out) quicker. This should produce more cross course speed over the 2012 model. I have not seen or heard what the changes were for 2014; but, @Dirt has commented on another BOS thread that the 2014 is supposed to be even better. Not sure what the tweaks were for 2014.
    Bob Grizzi
    swerveitIts_Fun
  • WishWish Posts: 6,770 Mega Baller
    @swerveit the Elite and the Mapple are two TOTALLY different skis. After nationals, the Prophecy will be my first test ride. Way to many good things said here not to.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,807
    @swerveit I did ride Horton's 12 that he left with me. The 13 is a good bit less effort and stays with me better.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • HortonHorton Posts: 23,681 Administrator
    the 13 is faster across and gets s lot more angle. they have the same balance but the 13 is way better.

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  • swerveitswerveit Posts: 201 Baller
    things are looking very good for the new prophecy......
    local dealer has the original Obrien Quattro available on the cheap trying to test both.
    (slightly off topic)

    appreciate all the input, so many good skis out this year, also got the new Radar in the mix..
    *head spin* so many options
  • JoepruncJoeprunc Posts: 221 Baller
    @horton, thank you for the great review. I've been dabbling about purchasing a new ski because I am a certified Gear Whore....well and I think my 65' Vice is a little short for me. I think I'm going to look for a shop around me to demo a few skis and decide.
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,807
    I've tried 3 different ranges of fin settings. Joel Howley and Jamie B's personal settings(roughly), stock, and Jamie Beauchesne's recommended. I keep going back to close to Joel and Jamie's settings:

    6.825 Length
    2.518 depth
    .755 dft
    7 degrees wing
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • bbruzzesebbruzzese Posts: 108 Baller
    just unboxed my new Prophecy (67"). anybody have binding numbers?
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,807
    29 3/8
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • bbruzzesebbruzzese Posts: 108 Baller
    Cool...thank you!
  • bbruzzesebbruzzese Posts: 108 Baller
    Did Horton ever post his final numbers?
  • MattPMattP Posts: 5,885 Moderator
    @shaneh I may have to try Joel's settings again.
  • bbruzzesebbruzzese Posts: 108 Baller
    Are those 6.829; 2.523? Same as JB?

    Also...anybody change out the fin block...the things kind of a pain in the a$$.
    chrisroddy
  • HortonHorton Posts: 23,681 Administrator
    @bbruzzese there is not a replacement fin block that fits

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  • skibugskibug Posts: 1,883 Crazy Baller
    @bruzzese, there is a fix though for at least the Tip and Depth; which only leaved the DFT to deal with. You can actually drill and tap the top of the fin block and add your own set screws. I have done it on two of my blocks. If you plan on riding Connelly for a while it is worth the minimal time and effort. I have had my two blocks in a '12, '13, and now '14.
    Bob Grizzi
  • jbrannanjbrannan Posts: 4 Baller
    would this ski be good for a skier like me, who is used to a stable, "user friendly" ski like an X7? I am running 22 at 36 pretty consistently, and I have run 28 at 36 once. I am getting more comfortable at 28, and I feel like I am on the brink of running it on a regular basis
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,807
    Honestly, it feels like a really low effort and fast X7 to me.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • rockdogrockdog Posts: 437 Solid Baller
    Silly question but will Reflex hole pattern fit this ski?
  • MattPMattP Posts: 5,885 Moderator
    @Rockdog Yes I use a reflex. It is a standard hole pattern in the industry for the front binding.
  • rockdogrockdog Posts: 437 Solid Baller
    thanks @MattP. What about R style rear?
  • MattPMattP Posts: 5,885 Moderator
    @rockdog the R-Style rear plate should fit as well. I believe it has both rear insert placement slots in it.
    chrisroddy
  • rockdogrockdog Posts: 437 Solid Baller
    thanks again.
  • Brian_MBrian_M Posts: 54 Baller
    I'm thinking about a Prophecy as well. If I keep my current bindings, can I switch to Stealths later? Do the Stealth mounts fit the standard hole pattern?
  • MattPMattP Posts: 5,885 Moderator
    @Brian M. Yes, I do not see a reason you could not. The Prophecy comes with the standard insert pattern. You may have to drill to put Stealths on the ski, but I am not completely sure. There may be and adapter plate.
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,807
    edited August 2013
    Stealths need the specific holes down the center of the ski. I know when I ordered mine they asked if I'd ever use Stealths. I said no so connelly sent me a ski with just the HO pattern. You can get the ski with one, the other, or both.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

    MattPBrian_M
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