Elbow Tendon Pain Suggestions

Dacon62Dacon62 Posts: 433 Solid Baller
edited November 13 in Other Stuff
Near the end of the ski season I started feeling, what felt like overuse or tight muscle/fatigued tendon, around the right arm, inner elbow area where the forearm tendon joins the elbow bone. I am LFF and right palm up grip. I use a 13" bent, 1.08" diameter handle. I started the season with a new Masterline rope and it still has a proper amount of stretch to it. I get a new rope every year. Have been told this is called Golfers Elbow and need to wear a velcro strap around the forearm just below the elbow joint specifically made for this. Got all that but now what??
Any tips to enhance or speed up healing?
Am I in danger of ripping the tendon off the bone in the future?

Lots of questions not a lot of answers.
Any insight or advise anyone has would be appreciated.
Getting older sucks...

Thanks,

Dave
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  • ozskiozski Posts: 1,379
    Reverse grip curls (cables) helped me but the real game changer was switching to the fattest handle I could find. I think changing things up helps a lot. Rest did not do much for me, I think you need to find a way to keep everything mobile but not aggravating the injury. I went reverse grip most of winter and managed to run close to my best scores.. In short you can find a way through it but you need to test a few things to see what works for you.
    'Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better.'' Boat 2005 Nautique 196 6L ZO - Ski: KD Platinum

  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 1,858 Mega Baller
    PRPT will fix you right up.
    John Wilkins- Si non pro sanguine quem ludus ne. #iskiconnelly
  • skihackerskihacker Posts: 168 Baller
    Masterline makes a 1.183 handle, I switch between a curved and straight handle. But seriously the biggest thing.....Don't Take Slack Hits.....
  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 1,879 Mega Baller
    I am also LFF and previously had the same problem. It was bad enough that I was constantly taking ibuprofen and began wearing some neoprene elbow braces. I even bought the Armaid. That helped a little, but never eliminated the issue. Then, I focused on changing myself and looked for bad form or other counterproductive habits. I didn't change anything other than not pulling in with my arms through the wake, especially the gate shot. Still using a straight handle with .970 diameter. Eliminated the braces and the ibuprofen. No problems in the past couple of years.
    The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.
  • bf`bf` Posts: 83 Baller
    Thera Band. Reverse Tyler Twist. Completely resolved same issue for me.

    Video
    BdeckerDacon62
  • HortonHorton Posts: 23,681 Administrator
    I use two very different diameter handles and switch every couple of sets. I think this helps a lot.

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  • Dacon62Dacon62 Posts: 433 Solid Baller
    @lpskier ... PRPT?
  • CBR51CBR51 Posts: 32 Baller
    Agree with bf. Theraband Flexbar. I have blue and green ones
  • Orlando76Orlando76 Posts: 550 Crazy Baller
    I thought for golfers elbow you put Velcro band above elbow? And tennis elbow band goes below. I’ve been fighting tennis elbow for 4-5 months now. Doesn’t hurt to ski but hurts any other time. Culprit is like mentioned, taking slack hits. I need to pull arms in and keeep shoulders back.
  • bkreisbkreis Posts: 231 Baller
    @Dacon62 proper cross training and stretching the muscles of cause, not necessarily pain area, and it will go away
    WaterSkier12Bruce_Butterfield
  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 1,858 Mega Baller
    Platelet Rich Plasma Therapy. Ask your doctor about it.
    John Wilkins- Si non pro sanguine quem ludus ne. #iskiconnelly
    Dacon62
  • parkerc2112parkerc2112 Posts: 86 Baller
    Switch between small/large diameter handle. Arc helps as well.
  • fizerfizer Posts: 23 Baller
    edited November 13
    Everyone is different, but I would recommend staying away from spectra handles. I have never had any elbow issues until this summer. I went from a "normal" handle to a spectra handle in June and started having major elbow issues in July (problem on right arm, LFF skier). Once it starts it is definitely hard to shake. Theraband flexbar and massage have helped me.
  • EdmundEdmund Posts: 118 Baller
    And I agree with @CBR51 and @bf`. I also have the blue and green ones.
  • BlueSkiBlueSki Posts: 451 Crazy Baller
    Picking things up, a case of beer for example, with palms down instead of palms up helps avoid further aggravation as you heal.
    Dacon62
  • skifrkskifrk Posts: 4 Baller
    Medial Epicondylitis. I had what sounds very similar. Cannot eat an apple without using other hand to bite out a piece. Tried many things, cortisone shots, PT, and ended up with surgery which made it better, but long recovery. Surgery was a debridement of the tendon. I have skied since and working out at gym looking forward to this year.
    Shark
  • Keith MenardKeith Menard Posts: 195 Baller
    For speeding up recover...go see a massage therapist. I took a real bad slack hit on a dock start some years ago and couldn't grip a coffee cup! The stretches, theraband, and therapist helped me get rid of the pain...but it does creep back up every now and then. Playing guitar really pisses off that tendon too.
  • BdeckerBdecker Posts: 181 Baller
    Another vote for theraband- if it is really bad you may need the green so you can work up to blue. I use it every season.

    I’m going to try switching up handle diameters and possibly alternating between bent and straight next season to lessen the repetition nature of it.
  • Lake3Lake3 Posts: 15 Baller
    I can across this video.
    Hope it helps
    Shark
  • HighAltitudeHighAltitude Posts: 31 Baller
    Golfer's elbow sucks. I've been battling it for 18 months now. Although it has been painful at times, it's never been so bad that I couldn't still do the things I love, like ski. Unfortunately, that has also caused me to ignore it for the vast majority of the time. Only about two months ago, did I really start getting serious about getting rid of this. My medial epicondylitis started after changing my workout routine to include pull-ups every day. After about a month of this, my elbow didn't just hurt while doing pull-ups, but was sort of a continual dull ache, I also was skiing, playing golf and playing tennis at the same time. Despite the term "golfer's elbow", golf seems to irritate it the least so don't think just because you don't golf, you must have something different.

    The rest is my opinion....but I have spent a ton of time reading about this subject. You might want to google tendinosis, A lot has changed in how to heal this is the last few years. Unlike tendinitis, the typical RICE (rest, ice, compression and elevation) routine does not always work. The problem is the tendon isn't inflamed, it's completely ignored by the body. Thus, the tendon is not getting any nutrient rich blood in order for it to heal. The advent of PRP was to address this very issue, There are a ton of other treatments that have now sprung up based on this theory. There is shock wave therapy, dextrose injections, even nitroglycerine patches. Hopefully you can cure it by simple stuff such as the Theraband. (I have the green and red) but I wasn't able to. I have been using deep massage with a Theracane (totally different device from the Theraband)) for the last month and have reduced my symptoms by 50%. ,I have my first dextrose injection on Wed. I am hoping in the next month I am able to eliminate the pain for good. I'll let you know how that goes.
    Ed_JohnsonWaterSkier12MDB1056
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 573 Crazy Baller
    Used to get this a lot. Stopped doing bicep curls and pullups (combined with a more efficient skiing style and increased willingness to dump the rope) and the golfer's elbow is gone. Now if I could just get my right biceps tendinitis to go away.
  • Dacon62Dacon62 Posts: 433 Solid Baller
    @bf` reverse Tyler twist seems to be working!!
    @lpskier will ask Dr. About PRPT.
    Many great suggestions. Thanks to you all!!
    bf`
  • bf`bf` Posts: 83 Baller
    @Dacon62 Excellent! Definitely completely relieved golfer's elbow symptoms for me. I did the exercises faithfully for a couple of months and it has not returned in several years.
  • jrsjrs Posts: 96 Baller
    Go to Amazon and search "GripGym Finger Stretcher & Extensor Hand Exerciser - 5 Resistance Levels". These are 5 rubber-bands of different color and thickness. They show a picture of how to use these around all fingers and thumb. I've tried all the other ideas listed on this tread and some worked for me but none will solve the problem faster. I keep them in my car so I can use them at stop lights. Try spreading your fingers out and holding it for the full traffic light. I showed these to Kyle Tate and he called me within 2 weeks to say how it solved the problem for him also.
  • KRoundyKRoundy Posts: 73 Baller
    @jrs Thank you. $9.99 with 2-day shipping via Prime. I've been fighting elbow pain for a while and hope that this helps. Going to stop the pull-ups too. Man, does getting old suck.
  • MDB1056MDB1056 Posts: 38 Baller
    Agee with @ozski. Sounds I'm possible but I simply reversed my grip and it was instantly gone. Some people said that would completely mess them up but for me it was simple. You might be surprised. Try a couple sets reversed. Will feel weird for about 20 seconds
    ozski
  • RichRich Posts: 242 Open or 55K Rated Skier

    RichardDoane
  • RichRich Posts: 242 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    Do this posture, hands under your belly, PALMS down, it will hurt to start but you will never have tennis elbow again! As you get more flexible try to touch your hands together
    GWaterskiRichardDoane
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