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Re: Sport Nautique 200 - Waves reduction for slalom practice
Hi Phillipe,
I propped the boat with a ACME 537, but note I have the ZR409 engine and run at altitude- 6000ft.
At 52kph and up and the shorter lines the Hydrogate definitely makes a difference if engaged, though I find at slower speeds, for my little guys I leave it off as the bump is softer.
To be sure, I played with weights from 30 to 100kg up front and for me at least none improved the wake.
The nature of the v drive and engine way back will make the boat sit differently albeit the same hull shape as the 200. Problem is chucking weight forward just makes the whole boat run deeper even if flatter.
enjoy the boat i love mine
my 2 cents
I propped the boat with a ACME 537, but note I have the ZR409 engine and run at altitude- 6000ft.
At 52kph and up and the shorter lines the Hydrogate definitely makes a difference if engaged, though I find at slower speeds, for my little guys I leave it off as the bump is softer.
To be sure, I played with weights from 30 to 100kg up front and for me at least none improved the wake.
The nature of the v drive and engine way back will make the boat sit differently albeit the same hull shape as the 200. Problem is chucking weight forward just makes the whole boat run deeper even if flatter.
enjoy the boat i love mine
my 2 cents
Re: why arent MC and Nautique increasing production?
From what I have learned Nautique is trying to facilitate a 24hr operation to assist in demand, obviously boat mfg's are not hiring for cashier positions at the Cirlcle K, need the right people and training involved, not a quick and simple task.
jayski
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Re: VENOM RETURNS!
I have always used shaving-cream rather than soap. Fits in a cup holder, rinses off instantly, won’t spill on carpet.
Re: 2021 Nautique 200 VS 2021 MC Pro Star
If you gave me the option on those two, hands down the MC . That new 200 ain't the old 200 .
Or go find a 2018 or older 200!
I think Mastercraft is on to something. Limited gimmicks and far friendlier wake characteristics across the board then the new 200. Also I think the ZO on the MC is better matched to the boat then that of the new 200.
But in the words of Sargent Schultz!!
Or go find a 2018 or older 200!
I think Mastercraft is on to something. Limited gimmicks and far friendlier wake characteristics across the board then the new 200. Also I think the ZO on the MC is better matched to the boat then that of the new 200.
But in the words of Sargent Schultz!!
Re: Sport Nautique 200 - Waves reduction for slalom practice
The fuel tank in a V drive is in front of the engine. In my VTX it makes almost no difference if I have 10 gallons or 40 onboard. Looks like a sport Nautique only carries 28. Moving people to the side and observer seats works well, although the side to side balance is more noticeable than where they sit. Riding people in the bow at ski speeds is just nuts. While we do have a little more freeboard than a DD, it is a terrible place to have people if you need to spin quick for a downed rider.
As for bow weight - my stock front tank is 150lbs, and I run with it full when I am skiing. I've never skied a Sport Nautique, but a friend of mine sold his and bought a VTX after skiing behind mine - a sample size of 1 but he thought that the wakes were a lot better on the Malibu.
I am not suggesting you sell your boat - just that some of the suggestions for what works in my V-drive may not do the same thing in yours.
As for bow weight - my stock front tank is 150lbs, and I run with it full when I am skiing. I've never skied a Sport Nautique, but a friend of mine sold his and bought a VTX after skiing behind mine - a sample size of 1 but he thought that the wakes were a lot better on the Malibu.
I am not suggesting you sell your boat - just that some of the suggestions for what works in my V-drive may not do the same thing in yours.
oldjeep
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Re: 2021 Nautique 200 VS 2021 MC Pro Star
@Horton
Don’t. Not worth it. 😂
No it’s not an awful boat it’s just obvious that the quality went down and it’s not the same boat through Bryant.
Don’t. Not worth it. 😂
No it’s not an awful boat it’s just obvious that the quality went down and it’s not the same boat through Bryant.
mbabiash
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Re: 2021 Nautique 200 VS 2021 MC Pro Star
This is kind of a Coke vs Pepsi / Ford vs Chevy sort of question. Full disclosure I do business with MasterCraft. I am biased but I do 100% believe what is written below.
The 2021 ProStar is clearly not a stripped-down economy boat but you will have to look hard to find unnecessary design concepts. It is pure ski boat. It is simply a very well thought out ski boat. The designers of this version, as well as the previous versions, are skiers. I would challenge anyone to show me a boat with better slalom wakes or skier feel at all speeds and rope lengths.
The “Ski Nautique” is the most controversial boat in modern ski history. You will find skiers who will tell you that it is the most technically advanced boat of all time. Those who love this boat LOVE this boat. It is the boat of choice for international events. It clearly has the best trick wakes of all time. The slalom wakes receive mixed reviews at different speeds and rope lengths. It is also the most complicated boat of all time. It drives differently from all other boats and the feel from the skier’s perspective is also different from any other boat.
As a skier, I personally dread tournament rides behind the Nautique because the pull (power delivery) is unlike every other boat. When I have been able to get a number of practice rides in a row behind it I have adapted. If I owned one I am sure I would ski fine behind it. Given a choice, I would always choose a Nautique 200 over the newer Ski Nautique.
The shortline pull behind the ProStar feels more familiar to any other ZO boat. It is a refined version of the pull you would feel behind anything from an older Nautiques or any Malibu.
Price? 2021 ProStars are sold out. I do not think there are deals on ANY new ski boats from all 3 brands for the foreseeable future.
The 2021 ProStar is clearly not a stripped-down economy boat but you will have to look hard to find unnecessary design concepts. It is pure ski boat. It is simply a very well thought out ski boat. The designers of this version, as well as the previous versions, are skiers. I would challenge anyone to show me a boat with better slalom wakes or skier feel at all speeds and rope lengths.
The “Ski Nautique” is the most controversial boat in modern ski history. You will find skiers who will tell you that it is the most technically advanced boat of all time. Those who love this boat LOVE this boat. It is the boat of choice for international events. It clearly has the best trick wakes of all time. The slalom wakes receive mixed reviews at different speeds and rope lengths. It is also the most complicated boat of all time. It drives differently from all other boats and the feel from the skier’s perspective is also different from any other boat.
As a skier, I personally dread tournament rides behind the Nautique because the pull (power delivery) is unlike every other boat. When I have been able to get a number of practice rides in a row behind it I have adapted. If I owned one I am sure I would ski fine behind it. Given a choice, I would always choose a Nautique 200 over the newer Ski Nautique.
The shortline pull behind the ProStar feels more familiar to any other ZO boat. It is a refined version of the pull you would feel behind anything from an older Nautiques or any Malibu.
Price? 2021 ProStars are sold out. I do not think there are deals on ANY new ski boats from all 3 brands for the foreseeable future.
Horton
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Re: The Promo Boat Paradigm has to change
@dave2ball, you are absolutely right. I will. We almost didn’t have a Nautique at our state tournament, but one of the women skiers made a call and Nautique got a boat there. There were some insurance hassles, but it got done. They need to hear from us.
BlueSki
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Re: The Promo Boat Paradigm has to change
@bishop8950 i do agree the depreciation is different for a 21 VS an 09 but once you pay a certain amount for a boat a president may have already be set in may owners eyes who agree to use there boats.
