Vector boot feather frame fail

mikeymikey Posts: 67 Baller
I ski on a Radar Senate with front vector boot on feather frame and RTP. Let my nephew ski on it this weekend and he had a bad crash that left him with a severe ankle sprain. Trashed my vector boot. Broke the feather frame in half up by the ball of foot. Tore away from 4 of the the six screws that secure binding to boot and ripped both sides of the stitching where boot is connected to feather frame. I'm thinking he had the binding on to tight. I had to jump in the water and get it off of him.... I've never had any problems with the binding when I ski with it. I usually ski with it on the loose side. Anyway, suggestions on what to replace it with are welcome. Should I replace with another Vector but go with the aluminum frame? Or try something else?


  • MattPMattP Posts: 5,969 Mega Baller
    Talk to the guys at radar. I'm sure they can help you out with new bindings.
    JC McCavit
  • mikeymikey Posts: 67 Baller
    Purchased binding last summer from Wakehouse. It's still under warranty so they will replace it once I email pics of binding.
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,030 Mega Baller
    @mikey -The feather frame is recommended for purely recreational skiing, sorry to hear that your nephew had a bad crash. I'm sure your Radar dealer will recommend replacing with an aluminum plate, which is recommended for the more advanced skiers.
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,754 Infinite Pandas
    A sprained ankle is better than a broken one or a torn achilles. Money well spent if the binding broke before a very serious injury. That's a good design when the equipment sacrifices itself for your body parts. I'd stick with the same binding - especially if the manufacturer helps you out.
  • gsm_petergsm_peter Posts: 721 Crazy Baller
    I hop he will twcover soon and you will get a new binding.

    I have not seen that FF are not for advanced skiiers?

    I have both AL plate and FF Vectors.
    FF is so much lighter.
    The attached instruction was to tight the bungy cord to type 30 lbs.
    However, the picture was on the Strada boot ?
    30 lbs feel like to much for me.
    Any thoughts?
    Life is too short not to enjoy every day!
  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    edited May 2014
    @gsm_peter‌ I think they are saying the binding will work when tightened "up to" 30 lbs, but in my four years in Stradas (&RS-1), 30 lbs is way too tight. If you leave just a tiny bit of stretch in the laces, the release and support is about right, and that's closer to 10 lbs.

    @mikey‌ Sorry to hear about your nephew. That must have sent the fun meter plunging. ... Your ski should be your dance partner, not a wrestling opponent
  • Nick SullivanNick Sullivan Posts: 676 Baller
    Same thing happened to my wife. Aside from the ankle sprain. She was fine. She called Active Water Sports to find out if they had another set in stock and they suggested that they warranty the boots (very cool!) and then suggested we upgrade to the aluminum plate. She's happy and I am happy.
  • KcSwerverKcSwerver Posts: 389 Baller
    Does the weight difference even mean anything? I would much rather have the strength and durability of a full aluminum plate, than save a little weight with a feather frame regardless of any skiing situation. I think the feather frame is a marketing tool geared towards people who assume anything "new" or "different" must be better. Radar and HO are doing this, I don't know about others but I would rather see R&D go into safety of a binding than a cool new "feature" that brings the weight down.
  • mikeymikey Posts: 67 Baller
    They are sending me a replacement as soon as I get them another pic with the warranty code written on boot. I did ask for the aluminum frame though. I won't be using a feather frame again. I like the Vector binding. Will feel safer with aluminum frame...
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