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how tight do you cinch up rs-1 boots

velcrovelcro Posts: 1
edited August 2009 in Skis Fins Bindings
just wondering how tight others are cinching these boots up for ski control

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  • HortonHorton Posts: 25,658 Administrator
    Hard to exactly explain but not very much. My test is that I can simply pull the ski off at the end of a set. If you have to mess with the laces to get out they are way to tight

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  • scotchipmanscotchipman Posts: 4,013 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Horton is right, if you have to mess with the laces to get out they are not going to release as designed. If you want to run tight laces like I do on mine I would strongly suggest you mount the boots to a G-10 plate and then mount the plate to your ski with interlock. Just last week I had my first hard fall in my RS-1 boots and they did not release but my G-10 plate did.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 25,658 Administrator
    Scot,

    I think that is silly unless you are on a Goode (Yea I know you are). Just pull the laces down till just snug. Do not take the stretch out of the elastic. Everyone thinks that tighter is better but that does not really apply to these bindings.

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  • scotchipmanscotchipman Posts: 4,013 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited August 2009
    Horton, it all depends on your foot and what you are use to. A regular or larger volume foot would get a nice fit and release in the RS-1's with the laces just snug. I have a low volume foot and feel I need to pull the laces tight to get the same fit and performance that someone with a regualr volume foot gets. That being said I also may like a tighter fit than most due to growing up with tight fitting snow ski boots. People like me that have a low volume foot and/or like a tight fit need to know that the RS-1's are not going to release as designed and should consider the G-10 plate with interlock.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 25,658 Administrator
    Scot what about taking up volume with superfeet or something like that.

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  • scotchipmanscotchipman Posts: 4,013 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Horton, I bought some superfeet a few weeks back and just put them in some new liners, have yet to ski in them. The superfeet do take up some of the volume but not sure if it will be enough in the ankle and lower leg area to allow me to run my laces just snug and not tight. Will report back when I get back on the water, I have been sick since Wednesday and not getting better fast...........
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  • RogerRoger Posts: 1,500 Crazy Baller
    I wear mine tighter than it sounds like Horton does, but I do make sure there is some elasticity left as that is how the release works. While I "COULD" take them off without loosening the laces, I don't since I want the laces to last. I watched Chris Rossi put his on at our May record tournament at Okeeheelee and he wears them pretty tight, but with some stretch left (that is the important point to remember, the release RELIES ON SOME ELASTICITY REMAINING IN THE LACES).


    Scot, let us know when you give the superfeet a try. I also have low volume feet and use green superfeet to take up enough volume so I can leave some stretch in the laces. I've been on them more than a year now and have zero complaints.


     
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  • D WoltersD Wolters Posts: 139 Baller
    I wear mine the same as John. End of set, grab the tip of the ski, slip your feet/liners out.


    Feels just like old school rubber bindings use to!
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,887
    Mine are pretty loose. Once I got em where i liked em, I knotted the bungee just above the cinch. Now there's just enough room to slide the bungees over the hooks. When I'm sitting in the water, it feels super loose. But as soon as I come up and there's water pressure against the ski they feel great.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 25,658 Administrator
    edited August 2009
    Mine are not "Super Loose" Just loose enough to get out without messing with the laces.


    Scot - super feet go UNDER your liners not in them. If you put stiff arches inside the liner you will not release very well.

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  • scotchipmanscotchipman Posts: 4,013 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited August 2009
    Horton, I have heard of people putting the super feet in the liners (Rossi) and under the liners. Too late me me to try under as I have all ready cut them to go in. Good point about how a stiff insole in the liner may not allow the liners to release as well....
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 25,658 Administrator
    edited August 2009
    I tried it In the liners and with the Superfeet I have - it stopped the release. I also have some softer inserts in a pair and that works great.

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  • DekeDeke Posts: 364 Baller
    I use Zip-Fit brand footbeds and have them inside the liner.  Laces are just barely "firm".  Trust me, they release fine!
  • mopowpowmopowpow Posts: 317 Baller
    I use Sole moldable footbeds in my RS1s.  They flex more than the green Superfeet.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 1,500 Crazy Baller
    I use my superfeet IN the liners same as Rossi. I have not had a problem releasing.
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  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 3,976 Mega Baller
    My green superfeet are inside, and the laces are pulled tight.  It'll be my fault if I get hurt because they don't release.  I've had those velco booties pre-release years ago, and it was the only time I've ever seen stars.  Not something I'd recommend to others.   In my highly biased personal opinion (IMHBPO)  it's better to crash with both feet in. 
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