½° Wing Gauge Insert?

SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
edited November 2014 in Skis Fins Bindings
Has anyone come across a ½° wing gauge/strip/wedge that can be stacked above or below normal 6°, 7°, 8°, 9°, 10°, 11°, 12° wing gauges to create ½° sizes?
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  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 6,065 Mega Baller
    I have a wing angle gauge that was designed by Jamie B that has 1/2* increments. It isn't the 1/2* wedge that you are looking for. If you are interested I can take a picture and post it.
    Mark Shaffer
  • jayskijayski Posts: 1,172 Mega Baller
    @SkiJay HO used to make one, might have some kicking around still I'll see if I have one for ya
  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    @Chef23‌ No big rush but if you get a minute, I'd be curious to see it.
    @jayski‌ Thanks for looking.
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  • A_BA_B Posts: 4,422 Mega Baller
    My friend has a wing gauge tool that you adjust to whatever angle you want in half increments. I don't know who made it, or if it is still made. I would be interested in one if anyone has info on it.
  • ToddLToddL Posts: 3,004 Mega Baller
    edited November 2014
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 32,531 Administrator
    edited November 2014
    @ToddL‌ think you missed your meds today

    D3 gauges do 1/2 degree
    http://www.d3skis.com/product-p/6-wing-angle-gauge-set.htm

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  • ToddLToddL Posts: 3,004 Mega Baller
    No, I took extra meds...
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  • wtrskiorwtrskior Posts: 704 Crazy Baller
    edited November 2014
    http://www.liquidcut.com/tools.aspx

    Didn't think I'd ever need the 1/2 degree, but I do notice a difference. I've been at 8.5 on my mapple after trying both 8 and 9
    Waternut
  • mwetskiermwetskier Posts: 1,337 Mega Baller
    a friend of mine machines 5 piece hard composite gauges in 2 -3 -3 1/2 -4 -5 degree angles and they stack to create any angle needed in 1/2 degree increments. my set is thin enough to fit in my caliper case on top of the calipers so they essentially take up zero ski case room.
    SkiJay
  • skialexskialex Posts: 1,353 Mega Baller
    I have a machined gauge set from H2Osmosis with 1/2 degrees, it's really great.
  • Chuck_DickeyChuck_Dickey Posts: 1,462 Crazy Baller
    edited November 2014
    I have an HO wing gauge set that measures in both full and ½ degree. Cool device, not sure why they don't market them any longer. I think @eddie_roberts_jr‌ invented them before he left HO. Maybe he can't offer them at Radar?
  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    Thanks for all the great suggestions. I appreciate that there are lots of great wing Guage sets that come in ½° increments. But I already have a substantial investment in four sets of Goode gauges (two for each home). I'm hoping I can find a narrow ½° wedge to use with my existing wing gauges.
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  • ToddLToddL Posts: 3,004 Mega Baller
    Hopefully, someone is or knows a machinist who can simply cut a couple of 1/2 degree gauges from raw aluminum or other stock.
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  • gsm_petergsm_peter Posts: 847 Crazy Baller
    I hope it is ok to put in 2 sligetly bit off topic questions?

    Is there any ski manufactor that define 1/2 degree increment as standard settings?

    What are the most comonly used angles (in descending order)?
    I.E what guages do I need as beginner starting to use a wing?
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  • davemacdavemac Posts: 458 Baller
    edited November 2014
    goode.com/wsfinadj.html#download

    @gsm_peter‌ FYI... If you follow the link above and go to the bottom of page, you can download a "paper template" of gauges. I would guess that 7deg, 8deg, and 9deg are most popular
    wtrskiorgsm_peter
  • gsm_petergsm_peter Posts: 847 Crazy Baller
    @davemac‌
    Thanks.
    I will make those three during winter.
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  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    edited November 2014
    FWIW @gsm_peter‌, the only manufacturer I know of currently recommending a half degree increment is Goode with a 9½° wing on Nano Ones.
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  • WaternutWaternut Posts: 1,517 Crazy Baller
    I use the liquid cut gages as well. They are very reasonably priced and nice. I don't think you could realistically get an angled shim to stay in place with any kind of consistency. Now cutting down a spare set of gages may be more realistic.

    I'm obviously not going to be using my anytime soon. If you want to borrow my 7.5 and 8.5 gage so you can mark yours up and then shave them down, let me know. Even if you're a little off, as long as both are 7.4 or 7.6, I seriously doubt it'll make a noticeable difference.
  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    Thanks @Waternut‌, but it's not worth that much work to me. I'm actually fine with guesstimating between sizes the few times it's warranted. If a ½° wedge existed, I may have picked up a couple, but it's just not that important.

    Out of curiosity, I called Mary at Goode today to see if they had anything like a ½° wedge, but like D3, they just do full sized gauges in half sizes and they sell them individually. I guess that's a good option too.
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  • MAD11MAD11 Posts: 578 Crazy Baller
    edited November 2014
    I have two sets in 1/4 degree increments that Mark from http://liquidcut.com/ made for us. Originally got them made as an easy way for "Super Chicken" to make small changes herself when traveling without me to events instead of trying to move the fin. Turns out we all use them more than ever imagined. They are not the 2 sided gauges he shows on the site, but more standard like the previous ones mentioned. Detrick just got a set made after seeing ours.
    SkiJay
  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    You just gave me an idea @MAD11‌ (*)
    I'm going to ask Mark to cut me a thin wedge that is two-sided like his normal gauges. One side will be ½° and the other ¼°. If the ¼° side is used backwards, it will subtract ¼° from the wing gauge it is being used with, making it a ¾° gauge. One of these will turn any 7 gauge set into a 28 gauge set with ¼° increments--without the bulk.

    Overkill? Yup, but I like it =)
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  • thagerthager Posts: 5,566 Mega Baller
    Definitely overkill!! I might be off on a tangent here but it seems like trigonometry would be easier? Therefore, I would wait for a sine from the great mathematician before cutting any new angles. Might want someone to cosine this first also.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 32,531 Administrator
    Painful when I agree w @thager‌

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  • thagerthager Posts: 5,566 Mega Baller
    @Horton Is it Spring yet?
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 32,531 Administrator
    @thager‌ Sadly it looks like it is going to be a long winter.

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  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,332 Mega Baller
    @Horton have you never used a 1/2° for your wing?
  • HortonHorton Posts: 32,531 Administrator
    1/64ths

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  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    I'm still amazed at how much of a difference fine tuning binding placement with the Mikro-Just makes. I've never tried a ¼° wing change, so even if it seems a tad daft, I'm curious to see if I can feel the difference.
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  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 6,065 Mega Baller
    @SkiJay here is a picture of the angle gauge I have.



    The person I got it from says it was designed by and manufactured for Jamie B. It is easily adjustable and sturdy. It may not be as precise as some but it is more than good enough for my abilities.
    Mark Shaffer
    SkiJay
  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    edited November 2014
    Thank you @Chef23. I guess it can be as accurate as you want it to be. Even precisely cut angle gauges are vulnerable to inconsistent use due to the rocker at the tail of most modern skis.
    I hope you're making progress with your shoulder.
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