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What is this LeeSki?

HortonHorton Posts: 27,757 Administrator






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  • HortonHorton Posts: 27,757 Administrator
    @AdamCord asked to see what a LeeSki looks like so I found these old images from 2009

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  • HortonHorton Posts: 27,757 Administrator
    edited February 2015
    From the same event @eleeski & @richarddoane






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  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,001 Mega Baller
    The picture of Dave Goode looking at Eric while he is explaining wallboard texture to Dave and company is priceless. Really shows the evil genius within Eric.... or is it madness... We may never know
    Horton
  • mwetskiermwetskier Posts: 1,329 Mega Baller
    @MattP -those are 2 sides of the same coin.
  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,001 Mega Baller
    edited February 2015
    @mwetskier there is no other side of the coin for a man that hordes gatoraid lids and superfill sad but true.
  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 5,254 Mega Baller
    That is the original Nano 1 design.
    Shut up and ski
    auskier
  • Mateo_VargasMateo_Vargas Posts: 850 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    What's the Lee Ski website address?
    Success is failure that just hasn't happened yet
  • HortonHorton Posts: 27,757 Administrator

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  • AdamCordAdamCord Posts: 746 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    Wow. I have tried some out there ski shapes before but this is next level stuff. When does it hit the market?
  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 2,589 Mega Baller
    I just want to see a video of someone skiing on it.
    The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.
  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,874 Infinite Pandas
    I guess I need to chime in here. I skied that ski for several years, got within a buoy of my PB ([email protected]) in tournament and was quite consistent on it (average tournament score into 12m). Despite the wild appearance, it was a fairly normal performing ski.

    The rocker, bottom, edges and profile were very conventional underfoot. Hence the conventional feel.The ski is ridiculously light from my ultralight trick ski materials and processes. The wide tip was an evolution to keep me from sinking the tip on the shorter skis I prefer. The tail was an evolution of an experiment that worked well for my deficient style. If I had a form break and ended up in the back seat, I was able to hold angle and get to the next buoy where I could often get back on balance. When I was in good form, I couldn't feel any difference (yes I did play with the profile with Superfil for comparison). The bindings are an adaptation of my sucessful trick bindings (I have now switched to Radar front (modified - of course - with a clip instead of the front hard laces) and a cuffless rear hardshell). The fin block worked but was a pain with no performance difference.

    @richarddoane took a set and skied pretty well on it - but he is a very talented skier.

    I have tried some wilder designs. If something doesn't work I'm quite willing to go after the ski with Superfil, a sawzall or a grinder until it works. That's the fun of it and since I'm right there score wise with a factory ski, why not?

    Eric
    6ballsBulldogRichardDoane
  • A_BA_B Posts: 4,141 Mega Baller
    I think that ski design gives new meaning to "I spanked it"....
    MISkier
  • WishWish Posts: 7,837 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    It is a familiar design...

    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
    A_BAndreauskier
  • Not_The_PugNot_The_Pug Posts: 595 Crazy Baller
    Eric's brother calls it the canoe paddle.
  • EdbrazilEdbrazil Posts: 1,396 Historical Baller
    Reminds me somewhat of the early-early days, back before slalom ski designs had somewhat
    settled down. This would have been mid-1950's. For example, I don't think it was conclusively
    proven that 1 ski was superior to 2 ski slalom until Warren Witherell came along.
    Boys Slalom at the 1957 Nationals was won by a 2 ski slalomer: Glenn Sperry. Back then,
    there were some excellent skiers in Boys. Such as Chuck Stearns.
    MattProkWishBruce_Butterfield
  • NandoNando Posts: 524 Crazy Baller
    Umm, so Eric, leaving all the shape questions aside, how is your fin attached? Do you use the ski itself as the clamp?
  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,874 Infinite Pandas
    @Nando Exactly. It was a bit difficult to build (allen bolts through the side of the back of the fin to threaded inserts on the other side). It was hard to adjust and didn't hold particularly well. There were no advantages in performance to the fin setup. It was an interesting experiment though.

    Note that I like the very tail of the ski to be thick (I think it gives some lift to the tail to keep the tip down). The conventional fin blocks could be difficult to adjust (I would have to make cutouts in the tail buildup to get a screwdriver through). So the fin holder molded in kind of made theoretical sense.

    Eric
  • skialexskialex Posts: 899 Crazy Baller
    @eleeski hi, I have this idea of making a composite fin clamp out of a G10 block or maybe out of a Teflon block and use preferably stainless steel threaded inserts (rather than brass). I usually do these things during offseason but I haven't started it yet. I do not like aluminium parts and the idea of a ski with the only aluminium being the fin looks great to me.
    I guess you have done this and I was thinking if you had any issues and if you have any suggestions on what to use or what to avoid.
    It would be great hearing from you.
    Alex,
    P.S. Teflon is something that I can easily find; I have used it before on my MX bike and made heel blocks on my boot/Silvretta release.

  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,874 Infinite Pandas
    @skialex Fin blocks are pretty straightforward. Normally I use aluminum angle and tap threads in one side to hold it together. As long as I use antiseize on the threads it works pretty well. I'm not concerned with .001 adjustments so I place things by eye. Your teflon idea sounds good if you want to install inserts and screws to make those fine adjustments. Acetal might be better than teflon as I have tapped threads in acetal. Still, inserts work quite well in plastics. I use brass and have had no problems even in salt water (I religiously use anti seize).

    My fin is carbon.

    Eric
    skialex
  • thagerthager Posts: 4,571 Mega Baller
    I built some fin blocks out of HDPE. Worked well. Paul Jager picked up on the idea and produced some for the Sixam in 2005 or so.
    Stir vigorously then leave!
    skialexHorton
  • skialexskialex Posts: 899 Crazy Baller
    @eleeski thanks for your response, I use silicon grease on the threads, use my air compressor to blow air and dry the fin, the fin block and the silvretta release and sweep them with a cloth and silicon spray. This makes my ski rust free and the fin clump looks like new for many seasons and I too ski on salt water about 40%.
    I'm very careful with the bottom of the ski and my RTP, silicon never goes there.
    I just always try to make improvements on my equipment which are usually more needed to my fellow skiers rather than my self.
    I have everything on my mind of how to put the inserts, washers, fin adjusting screws etc and I have the tools, but I haven't decide what plastic to use, it all comes down to what is easy to find in Greece. What is the Acetal? I had made one out of Corian but it breaks when you try to bend it, so I threw it away.
    @thager thanks, I Goggled HDPE, looks like Teflon, could it be the same thing?
    HDPE might be what I need!
  • skialexskialex Posts: 899 Crazy Baller
    I found HDPE on eBay and it's very cheap, Teflon is PTFE (I do not know what it stands for) and it's much more expensive.
    When I go back home I will take my measurements and order a Sheet of HDPE.
    Thank you guys!
  • skialexskialex Posts: 899 Crazy Baller
    Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE)
    RichardDoane
  • kstateskierkstateskier Posts: 524 Solid Baller
    I often wear dress shirts at the lake!
    KStateSkier
    Bradley Beach - Lone Rock Ski Club, Missouri
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