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2016 SCR Regionals & Nationals Sites

Can anyone tell me where the 2016 SCR Regionals & Nationals will be? (3 event)
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  • skierjpskierjp Posts: 771 Crazy Baller
    Too early, you'll have to wait for the bids to come in. It can be as late as mid winter for the decision.
    Broussard
  • 628Skiier628Skiier Posts: 3 Baller
    Ok thanks, I couldn't remember when they were announced.
  • LLUSALLUSA Posts: 279 Crazy Baller
    Nationals in Joilet in 2016 & 2017 bank on it
    LLUSA, Sr Driver, AWSA Board of Directors, Towboat Committee,Lake Owner
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 1,776 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    I have heard rumor of SMRR for SCR Regionals.
  • IlivetoskiIlivetoski Posts: 1,185 Crazy Baller
    Since nationals typically is at the same place 2 years in a row I would bet west palm
  • klindyklindy Posts: 2,349 Mega Baller
    @Ilivetoski doubt it. Not this time. West Palm picked up Nationals this year when SMRR declined.
    Keith Lindemulder
    AWSA Vice President
    AWSA Southern Region EVP
    Broussard
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 1,776 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    WPB would get my vote every year. (Sorry left coast guys ;) )
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,550 Administrator
    NATIONALS at Jonestown!
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  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,961 Infinite Pandas
    Nationals in Bakersfield! Reliable perfect conditions. Hotels that soften up the judges. Authentic Mexican food (don't drink the water! ). All good for the skiing.
    Only downside is that @Horton might ski Nationals.

    Eric
  • LLUSALLUSA Posts: 279 Crazy Baller
    Like I said we will be in Joilet the next two years, WPB is through doing the Nationals, there worn out with it, the regulars have said enough, just the facts. Nobody wants this event to be quite honest. It's way too hard to make money, to make it worth doing. I doubt you will ever see it back in Bakersfield, although probably the most consistent conditions of any site, due to past situations with the LOC and AWSA Executive committee. After Joilet who knows, we better be looking and begging
    LLUSA, Sr Driver, AWSA Board of Directors, Towboat Committee,Lake Owner
    E_Tskidawg
  • dislanddisland Posts: 1,358 Mega Baller
    Until they change the way the contract is written it will be this way
    Dave Island- Princeton Lakes
  • E_TE_T Posts: 621 extraterrestrial trouble maker
    @llusa do you think USAWSA should build a nationals site in the centeral U.S. to be used as a host site every year?
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  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 1,776 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    I noticed that nats in WPB are scheduled over 4 days. I would think that this makes it more attractive for competitors and would allow the host to save money.

    Last year my daughter was 1st event Monday morning and I was last event Saturday afternoon. 6 days stinks. From the hosts standpoint, 2 days less of paying for official's hotels/meals should help as well. I hope it goes smoothly for WPB and they make a profit on it this year.
  • WishWish Posts: 7,933 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    If the USA water ski wants to continue with the Nationals program they need to step way up and provide more financial and personal to support them. It is sad to hear WPB (arguably the best site all around in the US) wants to be done with them.. forever.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,067 Mega Baller
    edited July 2015
    USAWS needs to put on the show and rent the site & workers. It needs to be a production by USAWS not an LOC for it to survive and be able to go to different sites around the country. Labor Day weekend seems like the perfect time too. Just my opinion.
    dislandWishdrewski32
  • ZmanZman Posts: 1,556 Crazy Baller
    @LLUSA Lyman, when you say Joliet, you are referring to Waters Edge in Wilmington, IL?
  • jcampjcamp Posts: 825 Mega Baller
    Here's an idea: run Nationals as a class C, don't provide a single free room to anyone, and everyone who judges/drives, etc. is guaranteed entry (for the regular fee) to the event. Pull the workers from the pool of skiers themselves, just like every other tournament. This would possibly increase revenues (more skiers) and drastically reduce costs (less $ spent of officials).
    E_TThan_BoganIlivetoskiAlvin_Neff
  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,961 Infinite Pandas
    @LLUSA There are 12 lakes side by side in Bakersfield and another few lakes scattered nearby. Many different clubs control these lakes - not just the guy from the past. Tropical storms, windstorms, oppressive humidity, cold conditions - the weather factors challenging other sites - are rare in Bakersfield. It does seem sad that the memory of a bad official's hotel takes - what is probably the best skier condition site - out of consideration.

    Of course, Bakersfield is probably not a good site for the SCR Regionals...

    Eric
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  • dislanddisland Posts: 1,358 Mega Baller
    @MattP agree and have said that over and over
    Dave Island- Princeton Lakes
  • skidawgskidawg Posts: 3,309 Mega Baller
    I'm sure the deal usaski has weighs heavily In their favor! Time for them to get some skin In the in order to have a more attractive product
    Mr. Mom is Horton's favorite movie!
    E_T
  • klindyklindy Posts: 2,349 Mega Baller
    @skidawg the deal isn't so much in the favor or USAWS but it certainly puts the financial risk on the club. In other words the club stands to be able to make the most money but certainly carries the financial burden and risk.

    I also agree with @MattP and @disland the tournament should be a production of AWSA (not convinced it should be USAWS) and not the LOC who produces the tournament. Certainly AWSA can contract with the LOC to provide certain things.

    Perhaps alternatively AWSA can (and should under the current set up) entertain bids from any site which wants to host. The LOC proposal should be wide open and include things like size, format, etc. Therefore if a two lake site wants to pull a 3 day Nationals with a prelim and finals they can bid as desired. Of course competing bids (in a perfect world) would have other possible options and the board would select whichever is deemed the best.
    Keith Lindemulder
    AWSA Vice President
    AWSA Southern Region EVP
    MattP
  • dislanddisland Posts: 1,358 Mega Baller
    @skidog your correct. The current structure the LOC takes all the risk.
    Dave Island- Princeton Lakes
    MattP
  • LLUSALLUSA Posts: 279 Crazy Baller
    Thanks for the correction, it is Wilmington, yes I would love to see a Nationals site, there was once discussion about buying lakes behind the current headquarters which could have been developed into a Nationals site (Not lake Jimmy Grew). As Keith said AWSA should be the body responsible for this event, sad thing is AWSA can't vote on the content of the Nationals contract or see it, just ask USAWS Executive Director Bob Crowley he will not let a AWSA board member see the contract, as was requested earlier this year. I'm not sure why anyone would want to host this event, God bless Charlotte and her crew for stepping up for about the 15th time, but they definitely need a break, whether it's a Nationals or Regionals it totally consumes the host club for most of the summer, and who wants to do that year after year. Labor Day sounds great and would keep me out of Dallas the next two years. Just sayin
    LLUSA, Sr Driver, AWSA Board of Directors, Towboat Committee,Lake Owner
  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,550 Administrator
    edited July 2015
    The notorious “hooker, pimp and crack dealer - hotel incident” will haunt Bakersfield forever. Humorous for all of us who slept safely elsewhere that week.

    For those who have not heard the story => many officials save up vacation all year expecting to work hard at Nationals and then to enjoy a nice stay in a reasonably nice hotel. They expect to sit in a nice pool and sip cocktails with old ski friends each evening. Well the official hotel booking went very bad and officials were put up in a hotel in a bad part of town. There are stories of hookers and drug deals in the parking lot. It was a simple mistake that was pretty unpleasant for a number of officials. Still funny for me because I slept at home.

    There is no site on earth that has as consistently good conditions as Ski West. Wind? GLASS all day almost every day. Rain? Seriously?

    What we do not have in California is clubs. The skiing world has changed but Nationals is still run like it was in 1975. As others have suggested someone has to make putting on Nationals a job. Maybe a USAWS employee maybe not. They need to rent a site and then take care of ALL details. Do that and West Palm will be back on the list as well as Bakersfield.

    Keep things the same – burn out clubs like West Palm and never return to Bako. The model needs to be turned on its head anyway. Maybe the whole idea of Nationals is over. Viva La Revolution!
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  • skidawgskidawg Posts: 3,309 Mega Baller
    @klindy , I was basing my statement off of the old champion lake days and hosting the us open. Dealing with usaski/hosting a tourney for them is not in the best interest of the host.
    Mr. Mom is Horton's favorite movie!
  • klindyklindy Posts: 2,349 Mega Baller
    @skidawg yep, were on the same page!
    Keith Lindemulder
    AWSA Vice President
    AWSA Southern Region EVP
    skidawg
  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 2,901 Mega Baller
    @Horton
    Dude You Stole my Line!!

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  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,961 Infinite Pandas
    @Horton @Jody_Seal You guys are revolting.
    Jody_SealE_T
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