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RTP Slipping Around?

DefectiveDaveDefectiveDave Posts: 477 Solid Baller
I have a Wylie RTP which I have grown to appreciate, but recently the darn thing seems to keep slipping around on the ski. Not like every time I make a turn, but I have to check it after each set to make sure it hasn't wandered. It's probably something I've started doing in my skiing that's causing it, but I want it to hold position regardless as it's throwing me off for the rest of the set.

I've got the sucker bolted down as tight as I can without feeling like I'm going to strip the inserts, anyone else have similar issues or solutions?

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  • DefectiveDaveDefectiveDave Posts: 477 Solid Baller
    Also, and maybe this is related, but my screws are definitely loosening over time. I have to tighten them at the end of each day. I originally thought that they would just start holding, but no luck. Perhaps loctite?
  • gregygregy Posts: 2,456 Mega Baller
    I check the screws on my plates almost ever set. I wouldn't use loctite could cause you to pull the inserts from the ski. Maybe some double sided tape or velcro.
    DefectiveDaveJJVDMZN
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,113 Mega Baller
    edited July 2015
    Use some star washers on top or thin rubber strips underneath so that it wants to stay put. Pretty sure that my Radar ARTP came from the factory with some rubber under the plate so that it doesn't want to slide around.
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
    DefectiveDave
  • davemacdavemac Posts: 447 Baller
    if the bottom of the plate is not already covered, go to an art supply store and buy a sheet of black foam. It is about the size of an 8x11 sheet of paper. I prefer to use the stuff that has adhesive on one side. It will cost you no more than $2. Adhere it to the bottom the plate. It should provide enough friction to stop the plate from shifting.
    DefectiveDave
  • DefectiveDaveDefectiveDave Posts: 477 Solid Baller
    All,

    The RTP does have EVA foam on the bottom, but there is no foam where the screws insert. This could potentially be the issue as the aluminum just floats free at these points with only the metal-on-metal contact available to prevent slipping. It also causes a kind of bowing effect in the middle of the RTP which prevents a large portion of the EVA from making contact with the ski. I've always wondered if this was maybe a design flaw but didn't think much of it.

    I can drop by hobby lobby this evening and pick up some foam to put directly under the screws to see if this helps out. Thanks guys.
  • skialexskialex Posts: 746 Crazy Baller
    I use stainless steel Grover washers between the flat washer and the plate. They keep the screws tight for many sets and there is no need to over tighten. No need to use in every screw, only on the rear binding and the rear two screws of the front binding.
    Alex,
  • gregygregy Posts: 2,456 Mega Baller
    edited July 2015
    Mine rear boot has the foam on it and still twisted. I put a small strip of double sided tape on the front and back and seemed to fix it. Not sure what it was. Just some I found laying around. I was thinking of cutting out some of the foam to put velcro strips in so it would be about the same thickness.
  • CWiedmerCWiedmer Posts: 14 Baller
    If you use loctite, use the blue kind! I use it on my reflex and my toe plate. And it breaks free just fine when you need to move your boots. Called Blue 242
  • WaternutWaternut Posts: 1,511 Crazy Baller
    Sounds like you've made the inserts sloppy by allowing the binding to get too loose too many times and now the problem is spiraling out of control. Blue loctite may help but I'm guessing it won't last long. The first time you try to torque them a little tighter, you'll break the loctite bond making it almost useless and it will require reapplying it.

    Before replacing any inserts, I'd try loctite and some double sided foam tape to help hold the RTP in place.
  • skibugskibug Posts: 1,979
    I have had the same problem before on a different ski and used a strip or two of the anti-slip tape you would use on stairs or in a tub, etc.
    Bob Grizzi
  • DefectiveDaveDefectiveDave Posts: 477 Solid Baller
    All, thanks for the further advice. I have since inserted some more eva foam underneath the screws Wednesday evening. I can't say with certainty yet that this has fixed the problem, but the back plate didn't budge when I skied yesterday. The screws did loosen again, but the fact that the RTP stayed put seems promising.
  • skialexskialex Posts: 746 Crazy Baller
    @DefectiveDave use Grover washers
    They work!
  • DefectiveDaveDefectiveDave Posts: 477 Solid Baller
    @skialex ,

    I'll give them a shot, can't hurt. Thanks!
    skialex
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