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Entrance Gate Timing, where do you fit in ?

RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,537 Mega Baller
edited December 2009 in Technique & Theory
My best entrance gates @ shortline, are when I turn in later, am either in the center or nearer to the left side of the gate, and carry the best angle to get wider and earlier to the 1 ball.  It seems that keeping to the extreme right side gets me less angle, so I'll be  later at the one ball.
BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"

Comments

  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,236 Mega Baller
    Richard- I feel the same way about my gates. Even though for some reason I feel like that I should be hitting the gates farthest right I do better when I am farther left. I think it is because the distance from the right side,or any part, of the gate to the 1st buoy is actually farther than from where you would cross the center of the course going from buoy 2 to 3 so it would make sense to be later on the gates to the 1 ball.
    http://www.utoronto.ca/ski/water/ca/rule9596/diag1.gif
  • jdarwinjdarwin Posts: 1,381 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
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    Richard:
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    I think if you tracked your path from 1 to 2 ball, 2 to 3 ball, etc., you would see that the path would be similar to tracking over the left side gate buoy.  Trying to sneak inside the right side gate buoy is a hard habit to break and  we tend to panic somewhat when we feel we are "late" thru the gates when in reality, we're tracking pretty close to how we will ski the remainder of the course.  I agree, some of the best gate-shots/1 balls I've had were when I felt I barely made the gates.
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    Joe Darwin
  • dislanddisland Posts: 1,463 Mega Baller
    I have posted this before. I worked the slalom tower in the middle of the lake at the Masters 2 years ago. My biggest take away was that every single pro almost without exception went right through the middle of the gates for all their passes even 39. They dont flirt with that right gate ball. This is in stark contrast to local and regional tournaments where as a judge you are always having to make tough calls on the gate shot.
    Dave Island- Princeton Lakes
  • Thomas WayneThomas Wayne Posts: 550 New Baller
    edited January 2010
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  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,537 Mega Baller
    Shoot for the middle, that way there's plenty of room for error, just in case you need it.
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • Old MS AccoutOld MS Accout Posts: 2,114 Baller
    No matter when you hit the gates, the key is to take what you took and go with it. Do not adjust your speed or angle just to hit the gate in the correct spot. Take what you took and go. If you are early, stay early and miss it. You can make it on the next pass.   
  • DekeDeke Posts: 398 Baller
    From a purely analytical standpoint I don't think brushing either gate ball tells the whole story. You can have bad angle and still come close the right hand gate simply by turning in early. The greatest angle would be a later turn in and brushing BOTH gate balls. I'm with MS, you can't change your mind once you commit.

    -Deke
  • Old MS AccoutOld MS Accout Posts: 2,114 Baller
    Deke brings up a point that Chet was really pushing this spring while he was coaching a B2. You want to get 100% of your angle right then and there. Hit the right side of the left and the left side of the right ball for maximum angle.   
  • Thomas WayneThomas Wayne Posts: 550 New Baller
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    "<em>Hit the right side of the left and the left side of the right ball for maximum angle."</em>
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    Can't be done.
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    TW
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  • ski6jonesski6jones Posts: 1,110 Mega Baller
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    It a good mental image though.
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    It's like counter rotating on your offside turn.  I like to think about rotating my hips to the shore.
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    I can't actually do it but it helps me to maximize that movement.
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    Carl Addington, Lakes of Katy, Texas
  • jimbrakejimbrake Posts: 1,388 Mega Baller
    Chuck Norris can do it.
    "...all of the basic fun banter"
  • skibugskibug Posts: 2,100
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    "Chuck Norris can do it."  Now that is too funny!!!
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    Bob Grizzi
  • Old MS AccoutOld MS Accout Posts: 2,114 Baller
    His point was to take 100% of available angle at all times, nothing less. 
  • ski6jonesski6jones Posts: 1,110 Mega Baller
    <p>
    When the boogey man goes to sleep at night, he first checks in the closet for Chuck Norris.
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    http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/ 
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    Carl Addington, Lakes of Katy, Texas
  • Ed_JohnsonEd_Johnson Posts: 2,255
    <div>
    While filming his TV Show in Texas, Chuck was bit by a huge Water Moccasin......After 6 days of extreme pain, the Snake finally died.
    </div>
    Special Thanks to Performance Ski and Surf and the Denali Adam's !!!
  • skibugskibug Posts: 2,100
    I think Chuck Norris has officially Hi-Jacked this thread.....and no one is saying anthing about it to Chuck if they know what is good for them.....
    Bob Grizzi
  • lkblkb Posts: 629 Baller
    When Chuck Norris skis, the doesn't pull him...it runs from him.
  • scokescoke Posts: 704 Crazy Baller
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     Chuck ran an easy <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> at our lake back in September but our end course video was broke.
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     Said he did it all the time.
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  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,537 Mega Baller
    I heard Chuck was has become a "Trick Specialist".
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • lkblkb Posts: 629 Baller
    he stared at the video and it shattered
  • jimbrakejimbrake Posts: 1,388 Mega Baller
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    2 @43? Are you kidding me? Chuck runs 45 off whenever he damn well pleases.
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    <p>
     Chuck Norris has counted to infinity - twice.
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    <p>
     If by some strange space-time continuum, Chuck Norris was able to fight himself, he'd win. Period.
    </p>
    <p>
     Most ninjas grow up wanting to be just like Chuck Norris. Instead they mostly grow up to be killed by Chuck Norris.
    </p>
    "...all of the basic fun banter"
  • skibugskibug Posts: 2,100
    I heard Chuck stacked up ten O'Brien Elites and karate chopped them.....just to prove they weren't
    Bob Grizzi
  • Old MS AccoutOld MS Accout Posts: 2,114 Baller
    Chuck is Gay.
  • Old MS AccoutOld MS Accout Posts: 2,114 Baller
    Not that there is anything wrong with that.
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,537 Mega Baller
    hence the "trick specialist"
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • thagerthager Posts: 5,138 Mega Baller
    Wouldn't that be Tiger?
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • skidawgskidawg Posts: 3,405 Mega Baller
    Chuck is the total gym, and black jack master,  loves shreveport and the boats, got a friend who used to deal black jack to him quite often.  Tried to get him to ski but he said it was to easy, boats can't fight back!
    NWA....Heaven on earth!
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