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Gators

lpskierlpskier Posts: 2,124 Mega Baller
A gator grabbed a two year old child at Disney last evening. I know I try to put those critters out of my mind when skiing, but they are dangerous. #iskiconnelly
John Wilkins- Si non pro sanguine quem ludus ne. #iskiconnelly
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  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 2,156 Mega Baller
    When I stayed at Liki Tiki Village in Winter Garden in April, they had a sign at their lagoon that said that alligators inhabit every body of water in Florida and swimming or entering the water was dangerous. That should be on every "No Swimming" sign in Florida.

    Oddly enough, when I was at Disney in 1979, their water park was River Country. I swam there, along with hundreds of other visitors. It was actually a lagoon of Bay Lake, which is attached to the Seven Seas Lagoon where this terrible incident occurred. That park remained open until 2001, when Florida law required artificial pools and water treatment at water parks.

    I have always worried about the gators while skiing in Florida. Not everyone knows that they exist far outside of the Everglades and/or the alligator farm attractions.
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  • EdbrazilEdbrazil Posts: 1,357 Historical Baller
    It might have been Mark Crone who used to ski on a lake with a big gator or more that
    would hang out near the SL course. Procedure was first to run the boat up and back
    without a skier. Some places have had problems with gators chomping buoys.
    One of the first Florida tournaments I went to was at Lake Hollingsworth in Lakeland, that
    had one at least 12 feet, who would hang around at the launch ramp.
  • MSMS Posts: 4,773 Mega Baller
    You can bet an ambulance chaser will be involved soon. A sad story that will only make a profit for some high roller.
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  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,466 Mega Baller
    That story is scary.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 25,186 Administrator
    Horrifying

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  • pkreuschpkreusch Posts: 32 Baller
    edited June 2016
    While I feel the parents' pain, these things just happen. There will always be some story in the news about something tragic. This is what the media does, sensationalize stories. We could all live in a safe bubble but what fun is that? I have no doubt the parents are good people that protect their children. It is what it is.... an unfortunate accident involving an animal that no man has control over. BTW, odds of getting hit by lightning in Florida is more likely than being attacked by alligators.
  • jetpilotg4jetpilotg4 Posts: 239 Baller
    Lake wauburg, Gainesville Fl. Skied in a handful of tournaments there, and there was always stoppage for a passing gator or two ... Never thought why everyone always made it back to the dock after skiing ....
  • WishWish Posts: 7,225 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited June 2016
    It is tragic and I feel for this family and they are in my prayers. @pkreusch is correct. Media certainly is putting a sensational spin on it with very colorful descriptions. This is a big story because it is rare, and because a young child lost a life. REALLY rare. 117 folks die each day in car accidents. The gator does not even hit the top 10 for the most dangerous animals. Horses rank much higher. It was wrong place wrong time same as any other tragedy. Gators are nocturnal feeders. They are opportunists not tracking hunters like lions or pack wolves. You have to get in their space. And yes, people actually feed them..worst thing possible to do. Chances are good that folks being around that man made lake drop food in all the time unaware of what is eating it and coming back to that area for more. There are more gators in each body of water in FL then you realize. They just do not want to have anything to do with you especially during the daylight hours. There is nothing Disney could have done to prevent this..nothing. And it is the Disney name that makes it all that much more sensational unfortunately. My daughter has been swimming in our lake since she was 18 months. I have 0 fear of these animals but just about every time I strapped her into her car seat when she was little, I felt a little worried and stayed sharp behind the wheel. Now she is driving and I am scared to death every time she pulls out of the driveway.

    I have skied Lake Waubarg once.....once. Chalk full of gators. Same thing..stopped the tourny for one to pass by the course. I think the University of FLorida ski team still ( I know they did ) practices there.
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  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 2,368 Mega Baller

    Very Sad about the Orlando 2 year old, Family devastated also prayers go out to them!

    I have my buoy's chomped regularly by gators on Deer Point.
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  • LeonLLeonL Posts: 2,218 Crazy Baller
    edited June 2016
    I use to ski every spring at Ski Paradise in Mulberry. One of the owners, a long time FL resident, commented, albeit a little exaggerated, "there's an alligator in every body of water in FL bigger than a kids play pool". And if one isn't there today he may tomorrow. Tragic, certainly as @Wish said, but there is nothing anyone can do to keep them out short of a big wall all around. Edit ...... For BOS guys, skiing around gators is not really hazardous. They're wild animals and frightened of people and boats. They're nocturnal feeders. While I'm not scared to ski with gators in the water, I ain't about to swim at night anywhere in FL.
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  • MarcoMarco Posts: 1,399 Crazy Baller
    Such a tragedy, and my heart goes out to the family.

    I don't think skiing with alligators is that much of a threat, but I would be more concerned about the Nile crocodiles that have turned up in South Florida.

    CNN article
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  • SteveoSteveo Posts: 57 Baller
    Living in Fl I tell new residents/visitors if there is a body of water assume there is a gator in it. Some have even ended up in residential swimming pools. The family was from Nebraska I'm sure they had no idea. thoughts and prayers go out to them.
  • Texas6Texas6 Posts: 2,172
    edited June 2016
    We caught this little guy last summer and stuck him in my neighbors pool as a joke. He knew it was us and called us to help him get it out of his pool later that night. It was a lot more complicated getting this little guy out of his pool after a few beers on a Saturday night. Mistake in hindsight:)
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  • skidawgskidawg Posts: 3,155 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    We had a gator in out lake when my son was 2, he didn't like it there
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  • ScottScottScottScott Posts: 542 Crazy Baller
    I ski various locations in the central florida area. Despite the fact that the kind of water we like is often going to be smaller lakes or quiet coves, closer to shore, and often undeveloped areas (the kind of locations there would more likely be gators) I have never heard of an attach on a skier, or even seen one while out skiing. I have only really heard of 1 close encounters with an aggressive gator from a skier, but especially with the boat nearby, their preference is to stay away. It is in the back of my mind every time I jump in the water tho, or wait for the boat to come back for me after a fall. There are certainly chains of lake, or areas that I don't ski. Deeply saddened by the incident at Disney, and my heart goes out to the family. With as many people that are from other areas visiting, there should probably be more warnings other than "no swimming." There likely will be now. The waters edge after dark should be avoided.Although, I believe as long as disney has been around, I think this is the 1st gator incident like that.
  • Stevie BoyStevie Boy Posts: 1,688 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    They worry me, but if you want to ski with some of the best water ski coaches in the world, then you have to climb into that lovely warm water, try and put it to one side and enjoy your skiing, if I see one, I then have trouble putting it to one side, my heart goes out to the family what a terrible thing to see, a loved one taken from the world in that way, I hope they can find a way to continue their lives, it's going to be hard for all of them.

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  • gregygregy Posts: 2,436 Mega Baller
    I saw a few on the Rio Grande River while canoeing near Big Bend. Nothing but desert for hundreds of miles.
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  • IheartJumpIheartJump Posts: 41 Baller
    Attached is my buoys sprayed with gator repellent!

    I was losing 2-3 a day in lake Howell in Orlando and complained to a friend... He said when he was at Swiss they painted the bottoms black so they're less noticeable.

    I'm on a different lake now, no issues so far.


  • MattLMattL Posts: 39 Baller
    I skied at Cypress for SCR regionals 2014 and at the turn island they have a plastic gator head in the water. Enough to scare you at first. It was funny to watch people's reactions when they spotted the head.
  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 1,022 Mega Baller
    I have a course in an island up the Tensaw River, a couple miles north of Mobile Bay in the Mobile River delta in Alabama. We lose a couple turn balls every couple months with round puncture holes. The alligators are curious, and it only seems to happen at night.
    It is a little unnerving when dropping at the ends, as we do see them out there and there's no way to know how big they may be around there. Generally, at around 12 feet, you know what it's capable of, and I've heard experts say that is big enough to be a man eater. That said, no attack has ever occurred and I pray it never does.
    I just can't imagine. Don't want to. I'm praying for them.
    Skoot1123
  • liquid dliquid d Posts: 953 Crazy Baller
    Disney is going to pay....not that it makes up for the life. They do not have Alligator signs up. They have no swimming signs up. They get millions of people there that don't speak or read English. It's stupid on their part to not have a pic of a gator (which would be universally understood) on signs. There is a beach in that lake at this resort.
    I bet they put up signs, and hire a lifeguard now.

  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 2,124 Mega Baller
    Apparently there was a lifeguard nearby, but he or she was unable to help. The child was apparently in a few inches of water, at dusk. Wrong place, wrong time. What a tragedy.
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  • liquid dliquid d Posts: 953 Crazy Baller
    The lifeguard is for the splash pool.
  • chris55chris55 Posts: 270 Solid Baller
    We do not hear this kind of news here in Geneva but it is horrifying for the parents. Prayers go to them. Tragic week for Orlando.
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,850
    We have quite a few gators in the Southeast Texas public lakes. You're completely safe around them in the daylight hours. It's from dusk on that the adult alligators feed.
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  • skierjpskierjp Posts: 569 Crazy Baller
    The 2 year old was now reported in 1 foot of water so I would say that puts him about waist to chest deep! What part of no swimming did they not understand? If a Water Moccasin bit him would Disney need a sign for snakes also. I feel for the family. We all need to use common sense in situations that we are not familer with. What a tragedy.
    I'm sure Disney will willingly pay what ever it takes.
    There is now another report of another person being bitten by a gator at Disney years ago.
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  • MarcoMarco Posts: 1,399 Crazy Baller
    The report I saw said he was 1 foot from the shoreline, not 1 foot deep.
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