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When is it time to start at -28

cragginshredcragginshred Posts: 722 Crazy Baller
I can make -22 back to back off the dock always and make generally run 2 -28's in the same set. I have not tried -32 yet and do have a -30 loop in my 'progressor line' rope. I really would like to be done with the -22 loop but with -28 being my hardest line length currently with a lot of improvement needed there I am not sure that is the best idea

What made you opt to forgo the -22 loop?
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  • bishop8950bishop8950 Posts: 1,221 Open or Level 9 Skier
    It is nice to ditch 22. Earliest I would consider dropping 22 is when you are running 90% of your 32s.
    WishRazorRoss3ski6jonescragginshred
  • AdamCordAdamCord Posts: 936 Open or Level 9 Skier
    22 sucks. Start at 28 but drop the speed
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  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,592 Mega Baller
    edited December 2016
    when you can run -35 IMO, and +1 to @AdamCord because -22 does suck tons
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 30,608 Administrator
    15 and 22 really are awkward line lengths.

    My hardest pass is my third pass but in practice but I usually run opener twice. In tournaments I drop back one more pass so my hardest pass is my fourth. That way I eliminate that odd (too easy) first pass in practice but do not find myself at my hard pass too soon in tournaments.

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  • mwetskiermwetskier Posts: 1,337 Mega Baller
    what nobody has mentioned is when you ski behind a boat with a massive 22 off wake and you have bad knees its better to start at 28 and lower the speed. every body says your 4th pass should be your ' wanna make ' pass but i'm pretty sure thats not an actual requirement.
    RazorRoss3cragginshred
  • RazorRoss3RazorRoss3 Posts: 1,383 Mega Baller
    -22 is fun at 36mph. But I've dropped it at this point because it is so much more rope than my -32 and -35 that it feels awkward. I found late season that I felt like I was in a better frame of mind for my set when I opened at -28. -22 was my opener for a long time though and worked well up until late this season.
    RichardDoanecragginshred
  • jetpilotg4jetpilotg4 Posts: 334 Solid Baller
    I hate the 22 off wake on all the boats I have skied behind at 34MPH, I start at 28 in Tourneys, and 32 in practice
    cragginshred
  • wtrskiorwtrskior Posts: 704 Crazy Baller
    I totally agree, if you're dropping 22 you want 3-4 passes in a set before falling consistently. Id like to give up 22 as well but I treat it as a warm up pass. On my 2nd set of the day I'll go out at 28 if I've been running them and 32 smooth. It's important to run as many buoy's as you can each set, and to also challenge yourself. I see so many guys bang their head against the wall getting all 6 maybe once in a set. That's not a recipe for success either, regardless of how "different" 22 can be, you can still work on body position, which is the most important thing you should be working on now anyways.
    RazorRoss3BrennanKMNcragginshredwilecoyote
  • Boat030Boat030 Posts: 38 Baller
    Whenever you feel it is best for you, you will have more success when you are confident in your program. Also remember this is for fun and if you enjoy hammering away at 28's then go for it, It's your time on the water use it for what you like!
    Than_BoganRichardDoanecragginshred
  • parkerc2112parkerc2112 Posts: 127 Baller
    It's frustrating. I struggle more at 22 than 28 but until I'm back to back 32's with ease, I'm opening at 22.
    RichardDoane
  • bishop8950bishop8950 Posts: 1,221 Open or Level 9 Skier
    Also depends if you are a tournament skier or not. If yes, you are more likely to keep 22 or do as Adam says and run a slow 28 instead.

    I hated 22 and dropped it as soon as I was running some of my 35s. I kept 28 until I rarely missed 38. When I am skiing well and running most of my 39s I have zero temptation to drop 32. I have talked to Nate and he had zero intention of dropping 32 even though he rarely misses 41. So I think it also depends where are with your skiing as far as the whole 3rd, 4th or 5th pass logic goes.
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  • RazorRoss3RazorRoss3 Posts: 1,383 Mega Baller
    I can see why 34 mph skiers wouldn't be in love with -22, I've backed down a couple of times and compared to 36 I feel like I'm sinking around the ball. Add the 34 wake rather than the non-existent 36 wake and I think I'd be saying "screw this". At 36 I found that focusing extra hard on controlling my handle made -22 really fun, I'd have two hands on at buoy width and be what felt like 30+ ft ahead of the ball. Highly entertaining as an opener.
    cragginshred
  • I like loosening up with 22, then skipping 28. 32 off and 28 off can feel so similar it feels like I'm waisting my energy.

    I think each pass being considerably more challenging keeps my senses sharp!
    RichardDoanecragginshred
  • cragginshredcragginshred Posts: 722 Crazy Baller
    Good stuff guys!
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  • skihackerskihacker Posts: 426 Solid Baller
    I dropped 22 this year for the first time mid season. I was running a lot of 35's but was usually sucking wind pretty good once I got there, I pretty much always run 2 passes at each line so my 35's were my 7th and 8th pass. Once I started going out at 28 I started making almost all my 35's,
    cragginshred
  • @cragginshred I just noticed your profile picture, that's hilarious!! I've been in that position too many times!
    cragginshred
  • GarGar Posts: 320 Baller
    I dropped 22 this season too. 28 at 32 mph is much better for the opener in my opinion. I'm way more confident in not making at 28 off 32 mph verses 22 and it feels like a better warm up. I would often ski 22 off bad but still run it.
    cragginshred
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