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EZ Cam or Wakeye or Ski Doc

blinddogblinddog Posts: 51 Baller
I am interested in a camera mount. Seems like the EZ Cam looks pretty good for the price but the most recent comments on here are from 2013. Anyone have an opinion on the more recent EZ Cam (5th generation according to their site) or either of the others? Wakeye is expensive.
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  • dislanddisland Posts: 1,381 Mega Baller
    Like most things, you get what you pay for. +1 for wakeye
    Dave Island- Princeton Lakes
  • Keith MenardKeith Menard Posts: 603 Crazy Baller
    I did the pvc pipe method with a cut noodle inside to absorb some vibration. It might get you by for a bit while you think about which one to get.
  • Ed_JohnsonEd_Johnson Posts: 2,177
    edited June 2017
    Been using a Wakeye for years now and it works flawlessly, even with a rather heavy Canon G40 Camcorder. I suggest the shock tube option for Slalom to get the smoothest quality video.
    Special Thanks to Performance Ski and Surf and the Denali Adam's !!!
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 1,358 Mega Baller
    I have had good results with my Ski-Doc Orbit. Here's a free ski sesh from yesterday morning. Any jumpiness is from the rolling shutter of my cell phone, not the mount. With a real camera it works flawlessly.

  • ShererSkierShererSkier Posts: 139 Baller
    I was using the ski doc for a year and just bought a wakeye with shock tube option and the videos from the wakeye track a lot better and are smoother.
  • GolfguyGolfguy Posts: 219 Solid Baller
    I am beginning my video slalom improvement program and am having some tech problems. I have the Wakeye app installed on my iPad Mini 4 (new) and the slo mo function does not work. Has anyone experienced this? I also loaded it on my iPhone 7 where the slo mo function does work. However the stabilization function on the camera makes the video hard to watch. Thank for any insight.
  • JibboJibbo Posts: 134 Water Ski Industry Professional
    @Golfguy for iPhone 7 use the new feature camera flip to utilize the front camera of iPhone 7. The front camera (selfie camera) doesn't have optical stabilization which causes havoc with high frequency vibrations and gives excellent video quality on the Wakeye mount.
  • BlueSkiBlueSki Posts: 745 Crazy Baller
    I have a Ski Doc for a Nautique available if anyone wants it. PM me if interested.
  • moskimoski Posts: 108 Baller
    The ez cam was okay for a bit but then broke. Used it for one summer only. Not only did the barrel brake but also the top were my hand held camera went.

    I'm looking at either the Wakeye or the ski doc orbit. Having trouble deciding.

    I will plan to use my canon hand held video camera, go pro, and iPhone.
  • GolfguyGolfguy Posts: 219 Solid Baller
    I will try that, thank you. I would also like to somehow make my purpose purchased iPad work. Oh well?
  • blinddogblinddog Posts: 51 Baller
    @ShererSkier - were you using the Ski Doc Orbit or just the regular Ski Doc tube mount?
  • DmaxJC_skiDmaxJC_ski Posts: 346 Solid Baller
    @foxriverat I have the same type setup and it works awesome!!!
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 1,358 Mega Baller
    @foxriverat I've considered something similar for the Malibu. Swivel pylon FTW!

    Orbit on the everyday ski tractor, '08 TT.
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 1,358 Mega Baller
    @scotchipman for playback, are you only watching on your phone? If you have Android and use Google Photos, all of your vids upload automatically (recommend setting: upload via wifi only) to photos.google.com, which has unlimited storage. Once they're up in the cloud, you can use the Youtube player to slow them down. Click the little gear icon in the lower right and set playback speed to .25x or .5x. I do this with my Nexus 6P and it works pretty well.
  • foxriveratfoxriverat Posts: 550 Crazy Baller
    @DmaxJC_ski @UWSkier I was suprised how well it worked. The only pain is you have to unclamp when changing rope length.
    2000 Malibu Response LX 2019 65 HO Syndicate Omni Vapor Bindings
  • ToddLToddL Posts: 2,823 Mega Baller
    edited June 2017
    @foxriverat - can you take and post a picture of your setup?
    -- The future of skiing depends upon welcoming novice skiers regardless of age to our sport.
  • OldboyIIOldboyII Posts: 586 Solid Baller
    +1
  • DmaxJC_skiDmaxJC_ski Posts: 346 Solid Baller
    @foxriverat I actually use the rope as part of the clamping system I will take a pic later and post it
  • BrennanKMNBrennanKMN Posts: 517 Crazy Baller
    I was using my trakker at the beginning of this year and stopped recently. Just became a pain in the butt between shorting the rope and switching the rope for each skier. We only have so much time on the lake each day and wasting it by messing around with a camera quickly became old.

    Having a less than intuitive boat crew doesn't help me either though... But having a driver is better than having no driver.

    With that said my vote would be for the system that works best with your crews skiing style. Do you use a shock tube? Switch handle only? Shorten the rope a lot? Different rope for each skier? All of those things can quickly make a camera mount a hindrance when you have limited time on the lake. They all will do good video, get the best one for your style.
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 1,358 Mega Baller
    @BrennanKMN Check out the ski-doc Orbit. It's the best solution I've seen yet for rapid, frequent rope changes, with or without a shock tube.
  • foxriveratfoxriverat Posts: 550 Crazy Baller
    @ToddL I'll get a picture tomorrow. Basically just a long wire tie around middle of gopro mount and loosely around rope. You need a swivel pylon for it to work.
    2000 Malibu Response LX 2019 65 HO Syndicate Omni Vapor Bindings
  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 1,447 Mega Baller
    I used the original Ski-doc and it was ok for the price. The Orbit looks great but I haven't tried one. I have the Wakeye now and with the shock tube, it's flawless. We use the phone mount and as long as we don't take a big slack hit, it stays put. Send a handle towards the boat and we have to readjust
  • foxriveratfoxriverat Posts: 550 Crazy Baller
    @ToddL Couldn't uncover boat because of rain but here's the jest of it.
    2000 Malibu Response LX 2019 65 HO Syndicate Omni Vapor Bindings
    ToddL
  • ToddLToddL Posts: 2,823 Mega Baller
    @foxriverat - OK, now I get it. I couldn't visualize how the GoPro was mounted to the swivel ball of the pylon. Picture is clear!
    -- The future of skiing depends upon welcoming novice skiers regardless of age to our sport.
  • ToddLToddL Posts: 2,823 Mega Baller
    edited June 2017
    One trade off with regards to all of these solutions is the point at which the tracking device is connected to the rope. If the device is connected further away from the pylon, the tracking is more precise but the slack hits are more pronounced on the video. If the device is connected to the rope nearest the pylon, then the tracking may not be as perfect, but slack hits have little to no impact. I assume that a camera with a wide view, low-zoom would not need as precise tracking and would benefit from lesser slack hit impact.
    -- The future of skiing depends upon welcoming novice skiers regardless of age to our sport.
  • ShererSkierShererSkier Posts: 139 Baller
    @blinddog I was using the tube mount, sorry forgot to mention, it was the first thing that popped into my head. I have never used the orbit but the wakeye shock tube mount is pretty slick. I was also looking for a camera mount with a view from directly down the rope and the orbit is offset.
  • blinddogblinddog Posts: 51 Baller
    Looks like the Ski Doc Orbit is the only one made in the USA, I just ordered one, I'll let you know how it works. BTW, they told me they are in the final tests of a vibration absorbing device of some kind that will mount on the Orbit and will probably sell for $25-30.
    sodbuster88
  • GolfguyGolfguy Posts: 219 Solid Baller
    I just took delivery of the Ski Doc Orbital and have used it on several occasions. It works perfectly, very unobtrusive on the pylon. Easy to change rope and line length. I have even considered just leaving it attached, but so easy to remove that is not necessary. I'm still experimenting with camera systems as I want to take advantage to my iCloud sharing capabilities. I will try the iPhone 7 selfie camera next. The front camera has a stabilization system that doesn't like waterskiing.
  • sodbuster88sodbuster88 Posts: 132 Baller
    +1 on the orbit. I've had it a year now and provided feedback to ski doc on vibration dampening...especially if trying to use iPhone. Am anxious to see their solution. Also had to tune the rotating clamp a bit to make it smoother, but other than that... great mount.
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