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2018 Radar Senate

HortonHorton Posts: 29,138 Administrator

The Senate’s ability to carry speed is unmatched in the industry. This speed allows the skier to maintain width on the boat ultimately giving a sense of freedom sought after by those that ski in the course as well as those ripping open water turns. By taking our competition shape and adding two tenths of an inch in extra width we have created a stable riding platform. This platform creates the balance needed for a skier to feel at home, while the profile of the ski allows the skier to feel the speed and angle sought after at any level. Go for a spin on the Senate and you’ll leave with a smile on your face and a new ski under your arm.


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  • MuskokaKyMuskokaKy Posts: 458 Crazy Baller
    oooooh im Likin' that yellow! looks like its time for a senate upgrade ;) #RadarNation
  • Dacon62Dacon62 Posts: 776 Crazy Baller
    Love my 2017 Lithium Senate think the 2018 is same shape.
    Never dumps me if I get forward and still turns well if I get a bit far back.
    Keeps moving doesn't stall.
    Made a pile of 15' and a handful of 22' passes this year. Very Happy!
  • 34mph34mph Posts: 209 Baller
    If any one is looking to sell a 17 67" to get the new one please PM me thanks !
  • TallSkinnyGuyTallSkinnyGuy Posts: 546 Crazy Baller
    Like 34mph, I would be interested in a used 2017 67" Senate -- probably Graphite but maybe Lithium if price worked for me. I know it is personal taste, but I think the '17 graphics on the Senates are the best ever. I've been trying to figure out how to justify to my wife a purchase of a new one. "But it is such a beautiful ski" is not going to cut it for her.
  • TallSkinnyGuyTallSkinnyGuy Posts: 546 Crazy Baller
    Thanks SkiJay. That is really useful information. I've been wanting to hear a comparison of the different versions of the same shape.
  • vtmechengvtmecheng Posts: 753 Crazy Baller
    Having seen both the 2017 and 2018 up close, I know there were a few changes to the design. Any chance you will get a 2018 to try out? It doesn't make much of a difference to me since I already have one but it will be interesting to hear if the changes really did make improvements.
  • Dacon62Dacon62 Posts: 776 Crazy Baller
    edited April 2018
    @vtmecheng maybe @brooks can clarify? I was under the impression that the 17 and 18 Senate were the same/similar bottom with new graphics?!
  • brooksbrooks Posts: 205 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    @Dacon62 you have it right, the 17 to 18 is just a cosmetic change. Thanks
  • RAWSkiRAWSki Posts: 718 Mega Baller
    Reading the 2018 Senate write up it sounds very much like the Lyric. They added the same width to both skis. Hmm same mold and just a different internal build for the ladies vs .mens model? Or maybe their press writer just did some "copy + pasting" ?
  • vtmechengvtmecheng Posts: 753 Crazy Baller
    For some reason I thought the 17 didn't have the "ledge" feature that the 18 does. Just me misremembering. Ah well, I know some like the 17 graphics more but I'm partial to the 18 graphics. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
  • brooksbrooks Posts: 205 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    @RAWSki The Lyric and Senate are the same shape and come out of the same mold, they just have different guts on the inside.
  • C5QuestC5Quest Posts: 346 Baller
    I will most likely be selling my 2017 Senate Lithium in couple weeks after I head back down to Florida to pick it up. Good shape. Normal usage and some scratches on top surface from binding changes and adjustments. Used reflex bindings which are now on my primary ski. Also updated the entire fin block to the one used on 2018 senates and vapors. Will post more info when I pick up the ski and return to the great white north in week or so
  • Bill22Bill22 Posts: 1,729 Mega Baller
    @C5Quest let me know if it’s a 65”.
  • GlydonGlydon Posts: 230 Baller
    @C5Quest message me if it's a 67 please .
  • C5QuestC5Quest Posts: 346 Baller
    Its a 67. I’ll let you guys know when I return
  • csutter12csutter12 Posts: 4 New Baller
    If you are a female and been skiing on a 5 year old Senate would you switch to a lyric or go with the alloy?
  • dvskierdvskier Posts: 614 Crazy Baller
    Lyric would work best for you.
  • BRYBRY Posts: 585 Crazy Baller
    @csutter12 My wife was on an older Lyric, she really liked it. With the change in 17 to the 16 Vapor profile I thought she should try the new one. I thought the 16 Vapor was significantly better than previous. She tried the new Lyric and then had a chance to try the new Lithium Senate. That was an expensive demo. The new Lyric was nicer but not dramatic but the smiles from the Lithium Senate couldn't be denied. She's a -15 skier. Used to be 24-28 for years now she's 28-32mph and a lot more confidence. The new ski gets her out of things that would have had her swimming on the old one plus much more confidence. Can't go wrong with the Lyric but the Senate is better for her. You seem to keep skis a while, like my wife. Don't be afraid to move up the line on these skis if you want to, the Senate won't bite.
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