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Orlando76Orlando76 Posts: 1,206 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
What’s up with their Animal Bindings? How many of y’all have 2 zip ties holding the laces in the cheesy plastic clips/eyelets that constantly break and or pull out the leather? My binding has two sets of zip ties, my partners old binding had every eyelet zip tied in. He got tired of it last year, bought a new binding. First set it broke, took it back. Replacement binding broke first set. Returned back to perfski for credit. Decided to try a new one again this week, third set eyelet pulls out. Would return for a replacement but why bother? We shouldn’t have to keep driving to perf ski and bothering them.
Zip ties to make the $1980 set up work- $3


  • Stevie BoyStevie Boy Posts: 2,083 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
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  • gavskigavski Posts: 189 Baller
    edited May 2018
    Pulling those laces too tight was the reason that i broke my ankle with an OTF fall...if the eyelets are braking all the time, maybe you are over tightening..only your forefoot need to be snug. Everything above the ankle bone is not required - it just makes you feel secure...if i had my time again with the animal, i would cut the laces off above my achilles..
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,145 Mega Baller
    I've had this rant internally for Stokers, Obrien's bio etc. etc. Nothing worse than an obsolete binding system when you actually rather liked them.
  • ALPJrALPJr Posts: 2,096 Mega Baller
    I was on the same pair of Animals for 12 or 13 seasons - never broke an eyelet or string. Replaced the overlays once after 7 or 8 years.
  • RazorRoss3RazorRoss3 Posts: 1,355 Mega Baller
    Yeah, you may be overtightening or you might have too big a binding. I never tore one of those out when I used them. That said I switched to Strada/Vapor bindings and those are great too
  • Orlando76Orlando76 Posts: 1,206 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Im surprised we’re the only ones with this problem. From what I’ve heard the older white ones were better. Over tightening is possible, but the Harbor Freight zip ties are holding........ so we must not be pulling that tight. Heck I’ve never even replaced the zip ties and if my partner has I’m unaware. We’re disappointed in the excessive breaking but at the end of the day we’re still skiing the Animals for what that’s worth.

    Sent PM out, curious as to what we hear back.
  • liquid dliquid d Posts: 1,202 Mega Baller
    Maybe they should just make them with zip ties.
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 1,358 Mega Baller
    Had a set from 2002 til 2016 and never had to replace a single part. And I'm kindof hard on equipment due to my size. Maybe they just don't make em like they used to?
  • skiboynyskiboyny Posts: 231 Baller
    The old rubber overlay was much better(pre 09) and safer IMO the new laminate seem to have very little give. This concerns me as far as release goes. Been on them for 20 years still have one old overlay squirreled away. Love to change but not sure it's worth the effort at this point.
  • Zoro957Zoro957 Posts: 60 Baller
    I broke ankles on Animals. Try something else.
  • DWDW Posts: 2,116 Mega Baller
    @Orlando76 : You are not.

    Just my opinion, most of the equipment used in this sport is not at the quality level seen in other activities, a lot probably due to such a low volume and how it is used. Not just an Animal issue. I can probably say the same for my body, gets beat up more skiing than doing anything else.
  • jhughesjhughes Posts: 1,013 Mega Baller
    When I switched from an Animal to a Leverage a few years ago I gained a bunch of buoys almost immediately. And it's a way better built binding, and I believe it's made in the USA. Very similar binding type so very little acclimation period and lots of upside. Give it a try.
  • Orlando76Orlando76 Posts: 1,206 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Spoke with @savaiusini today and they’re treating us good.
  • skiboynyskiboyny Posts: 231 Baller
    @Horton which part do you disagree with?
  • skialexskialex Posts: 1,007 Crazy Baller
    "Zip ties to make the $1980 set up work- $3"
    Expensive zip ties B)
  • MarkMMarkM Posts: 132 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    Cut the laces. Don’t need them.
  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,778 Administrator
    edited May 2018
    @skiboyny Sorry that was a fat finger.

    FYI - I am a fan of rubber bindings. I have made the move to hardshell but for skiers who are not running 32 off and shorter I think the Animal binding is a really good product. Oddly enough the world record is held by a skier who uses rubber binding.
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  • ALPJrALPJr Posts: 2,096 Mega Baller
    Animals worked well for Wade Cox.
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