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How do you start your relationship with your new ski?

Keith MenardKeith Menard Posts: 624 Crazy Baller
I have an older Senate C...first started doing the course with it and wanted an upgrade. Got into a 66" 2017 Vapor Pro for reasonable money...took it right into the course and I swear I forgot how to ski. I can't seem to get into a stack from my off side after the turn.

So...when you upgrade...how do you bond with your new ski?
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  • BlueSkiBlueSki Posts: 759 Crazy Baller
    Sometimes it is awkward like a first date, and other times it feels pretty comfortable from the start. When I went from my old 9100 to an HO, I don’t think I ran a pass my first set, but it turned into a great relationship. My change to a green Vapor was easier.

    Give it a few sets and then think about a setting change if the problem is persistent.
    z_skier
  • Stevie BoyStevie Boy Posts: 2,095 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Go back to basics, run many back to backs get to know how to stand on it to get the best ftom it, it will not take long for the ski to become your best friend.

    If Only I Was Perfect

  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,995 Administrator
    @Keith Menard are you sure the settings on your new ski are correct?

     

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  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 2,919 Mega Baller
    Slap it around a bit, let it know who is Boss!
    Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.


    Keith MenardBobFvtmechengZman
  • Keith MenardKeith Menard Posts: 624 Crazy Baller
    @Horton It is as close to the recommended settings as I can get without getting a sequence plate. I should also note...the ski is far more talented than I am.
  • thagerthager Posts: 4,889 Mega Baller
    Don't take it in the shower and never ever approach it from behind.
    Stir vigorously then leave!
    swc5150ski6jonesaupatkingPeterAK
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 2,384 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I'd start by making sure it's at the factory settings, and check your binding placement.
    Scott Calderwood
  • sunvalleylawsunvalleylaw Posts: 1,259 Mega Baller
    edited July 2018
    Kinda like this. Love him, hug him, kiss him, and call him George.




    Joking aside, for me, I set up at stock recs, and go from there. So far, stock works well for me. I have always, or at least for a long, long time, been in the Kidder then D3 world. Each ski I have purchased has felt familiar and comfortable, but better each time. So, set up stock and start skiing is how I begin my relationship. And a little loving and kissing.

    Wishthageroldjeep
  • fu_manfu_man Posts: 445 Crazy Baller
    I had a similar experience. Went from an older senate to the 2014? green vapor. I loved how fast the ski felt initially but it seemed "off". The ski seems pretty sensitive to fin settings. There are several lengthy threads on this forum regarding fin settings for that era vapor that I read multiple times...long/shallow, short/deep. Even though I prefer to set it and forget it, I spent the better part of a summer trying different settings.I experienced everything from ski not turning, to tail blowing out, to having the ski "hunting" when I rode it on a straight path. So frustrating. I finally happened upon a setting that works for me and I have been happy with it ever since. I started on that ski trying to consistently run -15, 34. Last weekend I got a practice PB. Slowed down to 33 and got around 5 ball at -32.

    Be patient with the process.
    BlueSkiBobFChunkyd
  • DWDW Posts: 2,141 Mega Baller
    When it took me farther than I had ever been, you couldn't pry it out of my cold, dead hands...if it is a dog, move on.
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,612 Mega Baller
    Did you also change bindings? If so, don't :). Changing bindings is harder than changing skis and changing both at once is ... not recommended.

    If not, get a touch of rhythm on open water and then get after it. If it doesn't show some promise within a couple of sets, and the settings are near to factory, then it's probably not the ski for you.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
    vtmecheng
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 6,009 Mega Baller
    I make sure the fin settings and binding positions are close to stock then I go ski. Nothing fancy for me. I may ski a set of my first and second passes unless it feels really good right away then I go down the line.

    The Vapor is going to be more nervous than the Senate. I am not sure what size Senate C you were on but if it was a 67 and you moved to a 66 it is going to be substantially smaller.
    Mark Shaffer
  • gt2003gt2003 Posts: 726 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I'm definitely no expert but same thing, set boots and fin to stock, first few passes are just very slight swerving to get used to it then I progress as I get more used to it.
    2014 HO TX
    1996 Malibu Echelon
  • bigskieridahobigskieridaho Posts: 939 Crazy Baller
    Took me a while to get used to my Vapor. Moved the bindings back a hole, messed with settings, but had drop the front of the fin for my offside and I was good to go! It is a different beast, but will be your best friend....trust me.
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,519 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I just make sure to only get new skis over the winter. After 6 months, who notices a difference. I'd swear that my new vapor skis exactly like my old senate. I'm not going to hop back on the old ski and prove myself wrong though ;)
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
    allycat
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,244 Mega Baller
    Usually I wait till the start if a new season. Then I mount my binding roughly where it was last year cut the rope a few sections and take a good crash and that reminds me of my mortality.
  • burdhntrburdhntr Posts: 34 Baller
    Like any first date...get ready and spend some money.
  • mwetskiermwetskier Posts: 1,337 Mega Baller
    i begin my relationship with a new ski by softly saying to it ' now, we're not hurt each other, are we?"
    Gar
  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 1,470 Mega Baller
    That 2017 Vapor is a magic carpet. Don’t give up on it. That’s one of the best skis ever made.
    And don’t reach for the handle ;)
    Maybe a little dft change if it doesn’t get better
  • Keith MenardKeith Menard Posts: 624 Crazy Baller
    Right now I am at FB: 29.25(ish), Fin Length - 6.96, Depth - 2.46, DFT - .745
  • VONMANVONMAN Posts: 167 Solid Baller
    Set it up to stock settings, then ski it. Boots move next, then ski it. Take depth out, then ski it. Move fin forward, then ski it. Add or remove tip, then ski it. Chart all your moves and add comments. Might take a week or two but the reward is well worth it. Add more or less wing angle as needed for a tight line to the ball last. If you do nothing you are adapting yourself to the ski. Up want to set up the ski to be the best for you. Try to tune it so your offside is a little better than your on. Good luck, have fun.
    Ernie Schlager

    A Good One Ball Gives You Six
  • MuskokaKyMuskokaKy Posts: 455 Crazy Baller
    @Jordan @ballsohard love it!! Z-dog you were killing it on that ski; great choice! Such a great day and stoked you fell in love with the vapor! Hope to see you boys soon!
    Jordanballsohard
  • art90notchart90notch Posts: 49 Baller
    @aupatking how do you start your relationship with a new ski? I don’t know, say a lithium senate???
  • Stevie BoyStevie Boy Posts: 2,095 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    @Keith Menard check your fin alignment, look down the ski, check it for vertical and lateral alignment, if not correct contact Brookes @ Radar Skis, Rock Solid Guy may be able to help you out.

    If Only I Was Perfect

  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 1,470 Mega Baller
    @art90notch generally, I make one pass, kinda freeskiing, to get the feel of it. Then I smash the shit out of the tip at 2 ball on my next pass.



    art90notchShellMISkierz_skier
  • dvskierdvskier Posts: 596 Crazy Baller
    Was it a bowling ball? Never seen that before!
  • skialexskialex Posts: 1,038 Crazy Baller
    @aupatking the ski is shot, send it to @eleeski to dispose it properly.
    aupatkingeleeskiMuskokaKy
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