Sport 200 V Opinions

JustinJustin Posts: 62 Baller
I am really leaning toward the Sport 200 V drive and just wanted to ask the community and current / previous owners on their thoughts.
We slalom course ski first , surfing and wakeboard is secondary. Most of all need the room with 3 kids and wife.
Would the slalom wake be similar to older early 90's DD boats etc? 22-32 off?
Is the wave really surf able? Tried a ''suck'' gate and which one?
Any pictures or videos would be appreciated !

Hoping to try one soon as well...
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  • jayskijayski Posts: 760 Mega Baller
    A good friend of mine owns one, it's feasible for slalom and great for everything else. He's looking to sell it too. only 150hrs on it and a 2012 or 14, can't remember exactly
  • JustinJustin Posts: 62 Baller
    Thanks @jayski
    I actually meant to post this on Planet Nautique but thought I would try here as well for more honest and ''brutal'' opinions lol.
    Hope to get my first panda maybe...
    escmanaze
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,040 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    The other to check out would be a Malibu VTX with the diamond hull...tho maybe not as good in the course for you...but likely better surf boat.
    I toyed with these ideas for a while and those were the two boats on my radar screen.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • WayneWayne Posts: 453 Baller
    If you do all of your waterskiing above 32 MPH and keep the crew size/weight small both the Nautque Sport 200 V and the first generation Malibu VTX on the Diamond hull (or Sunscape 20 LSV) have respectable ski wakes. They are not quite the quality of a tournament qualified direct drive but above 32 MPH they can be quite serviceable in the course.

    If you drop below 32 MPH like many people do when learning the slalom course, the “v-drive” configuration becomes apparent and the wakes get very big in comparison to a direct drive. Below 32 MPH these boats still have an ok open water wake for more casual skiing.

    If you slalom ski at 32+ MPH it’s my opinion that you get a lot of additional capability for the compromise. The other catch is keep the weight in the boat down when slalom skiing. Thinking you can have 8 people in the boat since the pylon is behind the seating area and get reasonable wakes is not the case.

    For surfing I would look into one of the suction cup type devices and you should use all of the factory ballast. Also look at bigger skim or hybrid type boards as the are a little more forgiving on smaller waves.

    I looked at trading in my Response LXI on a Sport 200V or a Malibu VTX when the Nautique came out. We spend a lot of time doing in water comparisons with some very understanding sales people. In the end I kept my direct drive as slalom was WAY more important and the extra cost of jumping into a new boat didn’t make sense. We do occasionally surf on the Response here lately when we have non-skiing friends over. I did go with a tower (originally for barefooting), have the Malibu Wedge and added a suction cup type device. With the weight of a few extra people it’s enough to be entertaining and the learning curve is not as steep as skiing.
  • sodbuster88sodbuster88 Posts: 109 Baller
    200v and 200dd wakes at 34mph (both 2011 model years).

    dnewtonJustin
  • jjackkrashjjackkrash Posts: 539 Crazy Baller
    Skiing aside, I still think v-drives (including the 200V and VTX) drive and handle like pigs compared to a good direct drive boat. Its just not the same when you move all that weight out of midship and park it over the stern.
  • sodbuster88sodbuster88 Posts: 109 Baller
    I bought one for the exact same reasons you are asking about. It worked fine, but my biggest complaint was for a family who slalomed first, I found the removable pylon a pain and there’s not a good place to store skis in the boat. Also, you can see the obvious differences in the slalom wakes in above pictures. It wake boards good but we did not use it for any knuckle dragging.
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 3,510 Mega Baller
    @sodbuster88 in theory people like sun decks and lounge space. Ive always stored my back bench indoors and consider it a horrid waste of space. I dont want guests clambering over my interior and have personally biffed it overboard due to wakes climbing to the platform.

    Obly real solution is for engine techs to eliminate the bulge in the rear and reduce the dog house.
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,378 Mega Baller
    edited August 2018
    Fwiw, actually skiing. 04 lxi and 2012 vtx [email protected] same wake. The vtx looks worse, but the froth isnt something you feel. I'd take either one over a MC 197 wtt
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
  • HPskier1HPskier1 Posts: 48 Baller
    I just went from a sunsetter lxi to a 15 vtx with only 50hrs. I’ll say this it’s not as good as my lxi but I dialed it in and ski it through the course very doable and sufficient tracking. Above 30mph is best, 36 mph and it’s a good wake. Start the day with 1/4 tank of gas and the center pylon and you’ll have a pretty decent wake that’s easy to cut through (less equipment in the boat the better)back to the marina to fill up with gas and people... surf for the day end with 3/8 tank of gas for a late day set and then start it all over the next day. I’ve never burned so much gas during a summer. I’m betting it’s the same for a 200v or similar.
    6ballsALPJrJustin
  • slowslow Posts: 348 Solid Baller
    My buddy owns a Nautique sport V. It’’s mediocre at everything according to him. He always wants to ski behind our ski Nautique and his kids wakeboard or surf behind another neighbors. He uses it a bit for tubing and lake cruises though. Says he could have bought a Colbalt to do that and had a better ride. We live on a pretty good sized lake.
    bajaDaveD
  • JustinJustin Posts: 62 Baller
    @sodbuster88 Thanks the pic! That is helpful, I am not expecting it to be DD200 but hoping it compares to the pre TSC boats. That pic looks as good as my 95'.
  • LoopSkiLoopSki Posts: 488 Crazy Baller
    Trust me it's not comparable to early dd nautiques. Wake is wide , rough and hard. Its not a slalom first boat. Also handles funny imho.
    ISP6ball
  • LoopSkiLoopSki Posts: 488 Crazy Baller
    Get a new prostar with tower , add a ballast bag and suck gate . good to go
    baja
  • BlueSkiBlueSki Posts: 624 Crazy Baller
    We ski tournaments with someone that has one that may be for sale. If you PM me I may be able to put you in contact with them.
    Justin
  • FatrollFatroll Posts: 232 Solid Baller
    Not a fan of the sport 200 for slalom at all especially if that is your first choice event. Wake became manageable at 28 and shorter. Slalom boats can be modified to board sports easier that V-drives to slalom. My SN 206 slaloms well and sacks up for wakeboard nicely.
    2016 Ski Nautique 200 OB 2016 Radar Vapor 69.5"
    Wish they had a bonus buoy count for increased body fat index
  • BrennanKMNBrennanKMN Posts: 430 Crazy Baller
    @jjackkrash I agree.

    I drove a 200V and then a 200 back to back at the factory. I didn't ski either. The 200V felt like a barge compared to the 200. It also looked like a barge compared to the 200 on the water, at least 8 inches more free board.
  • MSMS Posts: 5,163 Mega Baller
    Resale resale resale
    Shut up and ski
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,378 Mega Baller
    edited August 2018
    @MS - you can't hardly find a 200V or pre-2016 VTX for sale. Resale on crossovers is pretty easy. My 2012 VTX would easily sell for as much or more than I paid for it 4 years ago.
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
  • MSMS Posts: 5,163 Mega Baller
    That Minnesota boat sat for a bit and went cheap
    Shut up and ski
  • IlivetoskiIlivetoski Posts: 1,181 Crazy Baller
    If it’s a V drive it’s not going to be a very good slalom boat, there’s no way around that. Read the handful of comments from people on this thread about the sport 200. I’ve been offered to ski a MC crossover, passed after looking at the wake. You are much better off with a TXI with a wedge and tower or a prostar with a tower than one of these
    escmanaze
  • JmoskiJmoski Posts: 295 Baller
    edited August 2018
    As a 30mph/15 off skier i’d rather ski behind any vintage DD ski boat as the 200v wake is disruptive to me in comparison to my 196.

    On a side note - posting here was the right call. I don’t know how many slalom skiers/Nautique owners frequent PlanetNautique anymore, mostly surf/wakeboard boat and activity related posts on there these days.

    See if you can get at test ski behind one at you preferred line length and speed.
    escmanaze
  • JustinJustin Posts: 62 Baller
    I appreciate the comments! First off we need the room, and I've owned many DD Nautiques, 196, 206, 216 and all ski great but have no room inside. The wife is over climbing over skis and coolers around the motor..
    As far as handling, we run on a public lake so not an issue, bigger freeboard is better.
    Not expecting tournament wakes, but hoping it's manageable.
    The few i've found for sale are gone very quickly at high prices.
    We will be trying one next week and I will report back.
  • HallpassHallpass Posts: 145 Solid Baller
    edited August 2018
    I've not skied the Sport 200V in a course. I have surfed behind it, stock ballast, and I'm about 240lbs, so I would guess that most folks could surf it. The ski pylon on the 200 is not behind the seats. It's a removable pylon that sits approximately the same spot it would sit in the direct drive version. Thus, I'm not sure you gain any space when skiing. Perhaps the rear storage is more space than the saddlebags on a standard 200. Not sure. FWIW.
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,898 Mega Baller
    To address the space inside regarding skis put a tower with ski racks on whatever you get that will help address that issue. I am not sure what your budget is but a 2014 or newer Prostar has a lot of room in it compared to any older DD. I haven't seen the new TXI but I think the 2018 is 95" wide same as the Prostar which results in a ton more room.
    Mark Shaffer
  • JustinJustin Posts: 62 Baller
    I understand the pylon configuration
    Its when we aren't skiing, i can remove it, put skis in lockers or racks and have more room.
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,378 Mega Baller
    edited August 2018
    @Justin Make sure you try out a diamond hull VTX as well. They are a little more plentiful and at the time I was purchasing my 2012 VTX I had several people tell me that they skied better than a 200V. Vtx will have only a pylon right behind the back seat until 2015? when they added an optional center pylon. The nice thing about the v-drive pylon is that it doesn't make half your seating useless.

    There is no comparing the room/storage in a crossover v-drive to any dd built.
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
    Justin
  • sodbuster88sodbuster88 Posts: 109 Baller
    @Justin you may be disappointed in the room of 200v. Look at it closely. I thought it was cramped in the seating area and the swivel board racks were great for denting your scalp in that small space if you had to swivel them in for some reason. We fit ok as a family of five, but there was little more room for others and their gear. We kept the boat for three years and went to the new ProStar. Have not looked back. Not trying to discourage you...I thought enough positively about the boat to buy it. But as a slalom first boat, hard to beat an open bow DD. Before that boat, I had a sport 216 with the TSC hull. It was actually a lighter boat with a narrower beam....did all things just as good as the 200v, but skied better.
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,378 Mega Baller
    A prostar is a better family boat than a v drive? How many flavors does that koolaid come in?
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
    Justin
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