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getting off my back foot

h2onhkh2onhk Posts: 294 Crazy Baller
Finally got back in the course the last 2 days after an almost 8-week hiatus. Usually I'm a solid 15-32 off guy with an occasional shot at 35. Could not for the life of me get off my back foot. 28 was a struggle. Then started over-thinking everything with technique. If there was one thing to focus on to help get my mass centered over the ski what would that be?

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  • C5QuestC5Quest Posts: 313 Baller
    Same question. I’m trying to focus on getting forward and staying forward. It gets worse when tired
  • GloersenGloersen Posts: 983 Crazy Baller
    edited September 2018
    my m.o.; typically from opening hips to boat too much and loading hard (resulting on back foot) trying to get more angle.
    Focusing on back-arm/shoulder (outside, right going right/left going left) pressure spray through spray, elbows to vest, "zippers" aligned, helps me without over-thinking it.

  • Stevie BoyStevie Boy Posts: 2,083 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited September 2018 Try just concentrating on taking and keeping the Handle horizontal through the back of the boat, this will help keep your arms straight and remain a little open to the boat, My thoughts are if you close your shoulders off to the boat or pull on your arms you are going to end up on the back of the ski.
    @Gloersen I have coached skiers who have been told elbows on the vest, what a nightmare to unravel, all that does is create a bend in the arms, now if you are talking about getting your biceps on the vest that is a good thing, subtle difference with far better results.

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  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 5,521 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    Try moving to a RTP and concentrate on feeling the ball of your front foot on top of the ski. Feel the ski with your front foot.
    Shut up and ski
  • GloersenGloersen Posts: 983 Crazy Baller
    edited September 2018
    @Stevie Boy the comment was in reference to a 13m skier. Back arm pressure/zippers aligned/elbows to vest in conjunction; no way will the handle be other than low and tight.
    Half the battle is recognizing one's flaws without video or an observer's comments, the other half acquiring muscle memory of a proper, early stacked position out wide. Then get video after it feels one is skiing well only to realize how much it still sucks.
    "Visualizing" what one is trying to accomplish is in many ways better than trying to assimilate a bunch of jargon that will ensue in this thread.
    Although an article on Proper Edge Change this summary by TW always helps, imo, visualize better balance on the ski. Of course many will have other viewpoints
  • h2onhkh2onhk Posts: 294 Crazy Baller
    @MS never been a double boot guy. Always run a RTP. Using a T-Factor front binding and it keeps the ball of my foot firmly against the ski though I've never really "felt" for the ski.

    @BraceMaker the back leg theory went through my mind a couple times yesterday but I could never put it all together

  • h2onhkh2onhk Posts: 294 Crazy Baller
    Worst part is I know what a good center of mass feels like. The cross course speed is there and the entire course slows down. Just tried to hard to find it last evening.
  • Fam-manFam-man Posts: 197 Solid Baller
    Had a similar experience this summer. Skied every day on vacation and was running 28 off about 75% of the time. Got home from vacation and didn’t ski for 1.5 weeks. When I finally got back out I couldn’t get past 2 ball at 22 off. Same problem, too back foot heavy.
    Stayed at an easier pass and skied it a bunch without over thinking it. I’m LFF and focus on keeping the handle close, standing tall through the course and “feeling” my front foot pressure especially in offside preturn. Being tall (chest up) is important to keep me from breaking at waist.
    So I’d suggest don’t overthink and ski an easier pass a few times focusing on your keys
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,125 Mega Baller I have always felt that way about the ball of foot technique. I'd try hard to keep that loaded but you can load the ball of your foot by plantarflexing your ankle, bending your back knee and yanking and you hit the wake and your tip will bounce up and your back leg will be screaming, or you can flex your front ankle and front knee and move your weight up onto the ball of the foot and to get there.

    And what makes you do the second one most effectively "seems" to be straightening the back leg, because it is really hard to get ball of foot pressure and have your back knee bent.
    And if you for instance use a hardshell and pin the cuff and you do the first one thinking it will hold you forwards you will be in for some great OTF crashing.
  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 5,521 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    Maybe want to look at using support in boot to keep you forward. File into your foot pad around your front ball of foot and make it so your foot is closer to ski. Or try a forward style binging like the HO approach
    Shut up and ski
  • UCFskierUCFskier Posts: 54 Baller
    eliminate the external variables first and try 2-3 passes outside of the course. flex that front ankle allowing the ski to pull back to that COM. Remember we are not diving over the front of the ski so hips up and chest tall.
  • h2onhkh2onhk Posts: 294 Crazy Baller
    @UCFskier good point. free skiing usually resets my brain.
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