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Radar Carbitec Sizing

I’ve been on Radar Strada bindings since 2010, had a couple different pairs. I wear size 12 and they’ve always been very snug fitting, even after hear molding. Just got a pair of Carbitecs with BOA and my feet are loose even with the BOA as tight as I can get it, to the point I feel like it might break. Plus I have to pull on the bungees way tighter than necessary to get a decent fit. Even then my feet move around in the boot. Anyone else have this issue with the newer Radars? Are the new liners thinner? They are a pair of 2017 bindings, but were brand new, still had all the tags on.

Thanks
Justin Edgell - Bozeman, MT

Comments

  • Dacon62Dacon62 Posts: 698 Crazy Baller
    edited September 2018
    Interesting, I had the Strada, ‘14 Vapor and now Vapor Carbitex boots and all were size 11 and my street shoe size is 10-10.5 and the 11’s fit perfectly.

    Silly question but are you sure you have size 12 Carbitex boots?
  • jedgelljedgell Posts: 350 Baller
    They say size 12. My original though was the liners were thinner in the new ones but when I put my old liners in the new shell they were loose too. So seems like the shells get bigger, or at least mine are...
    Justin Edgell - Bozeman, MT
  • Dacon62Dacon62 Posts: 698 Crazy Baller
    edited September 2018
    Any chance you still have the old booors and can put them side by side with the new ones to confirm the shell size or maybe there is a size stamped somewhere on the boot. Seems odd.
  • C5QuestC5Quest Posts: 293 Baller
    It’s normal to size up. Wear size 9 shoe but 10 Vapor boot. And my toes are still at the ends
    Calisdad57
  • thagerthager Posts: 4,571 Mega Baller
    I am a 10.5 but prefer 10s over the 11s.
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • perfskiperfski Posts: 111 Water Ski Industry Professional
    We've not run into any issues....and all assessments on sizing here run true to what we've experienced in the shop. You might consider adding a footbed from an older pair of tennis shoes or we do sell radar's footbeds that come with the boots. You will remove excess volume from the boot doing this...and it should sort out your problem. If we can help let us know. Best Regards Bill @ Performance Ski and Surf.
    Jody_Seal
  • KillerKiller Posts: 394 ★★★★Quad Panda Award Recipient ★★★★
    Heat mold the liners, use just a very thin sock on your feet. Don't put the footbeds in and don't cinch the laces down very much. This will let the boots form snug to your feet.

    Once they've cooled down, put the footbeds back in and see how they are. Should have reduced volume.

    I have new carbitex boots coming off RS1s. The RS1 liners were thicker and after about a dozen sets the carbitex have packed out a little more than I'd like, especially around my ankle. I'm going to heat them again as well.
  • chopperchopper Posts: 9 Baller
    I've had a few pairs of the Radar RS1/Strada and now on Carbinex. The size and fit has been consistent. Agree with @Killer on the fitting process. Additionally I use Superfeet footbeds. They're a big improvement over the Radar stock footbeds for me.
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,961 Mega Baller
    I was always in a size 10 Strada and went to a size 10 Carbitex. I find the Carbitex to be a little shorter but a bit wider. If you have a narrowish foot then I can see having an issue getting the BOA tight enough. Even with the Carbitex molded it is a little wider.

    I definitely find the Carbitex to be much stiffer and more responsive even though it is a little wider. When I first went to the Carbitex I struggled the first two sets very similar as to when I tried a Reflex. After 2-3 sets I was comfortable and back skiing the way I was before.
    Mark Shaffer
  • jedgelljedgell Posts: 350 Baller
    Thanks for all the responses. I'll heat mold them again without the footbeds and see it that helps.
    How many times can you heat mold these liners?
    Justin Edgell - Bozeman, MT
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,961 Mega Baller
    @jedgell I don't know what the official answer is on remolding the liners is but 2-3 times will be fine.
    Mark Shaffer
  • ZmanZman Posts: 1,496 Crazy Baller
    https://intuitionliners.com/fitting/home-fitting-instructions/

    More about snow ski boot liners, but still helpful.
  • ColeGiacopuzziColeGiacopuzzi Posts: 429 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    I'm a size 10 but use size 11 when I ski in Carbitex boots, but I also have a wide foot. I know people who use 10's who are size 10 in shoes. it all comes down to preference at the end of they day, whether you want them super super tight or want a little extra room.
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,961 Mega Baller
    I am a 10.5 and sometimes 11 in sneakers and am in a 10 Carbitex but my big toe is definitely hitting the front of the binding. If my foot was a tiny bit larger I would need an 11.
    Mark Shaffer
  • jedgelljedgell Posts: 350 Baller
    Think I figured it out. Measured the inside of the shells and they're are about 1/2" longer on the new ones vs the old. Even with the liners in them, which were heat molded, I can push the liner forward so there's a 1/2" gap between the back of the liner and shell. Dealer's been great, will get the problem addressed.
    Justin Edgell - Bozeman, MT
    jipster43
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