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Connelly Skis NCWSA Nationals Webcast

KelvinKelvin Posts: 1,221 Mega Baller
Kelvin Kelm, Lakes of Katy, Katy Texas
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  • KelvinKelvin Posts: 1,221 Mega Baller
    Bump
    Kelvin Kelm, Lakes of Katy, Katy Texas
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 6,051 Mega Baller
    The webcast is great.
    Mark Shaffer
    OSUwaterskier
  • NikolGNikolG Posts: 97 Baller
    Curtis is an excellent announcer. Witty and knows almost everyone and all 3 events so well!
  • ntxntx Posts: 835 Crazy Baller
    @nikandsteve he is very knowledgeable, and I know it is a college crowd on site.....but for a webcast he might want to clean it up a little. In a more professional environment some of his comments cross the line . especially in today's #me too climate
  • ToddLToddL Posts: 2,847 Mega Baller
    Site announcing is more difficult that some may realize. Say too little and people don't know who's on the water and what's going on. Say too much and people get annoyed or tune the announcer out, such that true "announcements" are not heard. Then add the situation where the site PA is the same audio as the webcast, and it is even more difficult to keep both audiences in mind.

    I think the play-by-play level can be too much most of the time. When an event gets down to the final seeds and podium placements are possible, then the whole play-by-play and reaction comments add excitement when done tastefully. For the rest of the field, the basics are best: who's on the water, what jump number or slalom pass is this, distances, and final buoy results. It takes effort to keep an unofficial record of every score/distance so as to be able to comment on current leader, etc. It would be cool if there was an announcer's view/screen of WSTIMS which showed real-time placements within divisions, etc. Tricks are tough since the announcer doesn't know scores in real time. Having key personalities stop by the announcer's tent for dialog and interviews is also a good thing.

    Commentary is tricky. It helps when you know the skiers very well. However, you can unintentionally get into the heads of the other competitors on site who can hear the PA system. If the announcer starts talking about "what the skier might be thinking" etc., it can be too much. Also, inside jokes are a problem and can be misunderstood by larger audiences. Also, the skill of the announcer to recognize the aspects of the technique of the skier can enhance the commentary. Having a skilled skier co-announce the event can really be helpful.

    PS: Live Scoring can help with current scores and real-time placement info, but an announcer's view for that would be even better.
    -- The future of skiing depends upon welcoming novice skiers regardless of age to our sport.
    One_Ski
  • travtitletravtitle Posts: 31 Baller
    If a college skier does their trick ski run on a kneeboard, do they get the same amount of points as a a skier on a trick ski?
  • Bruce_ButterfieldBruce_Butterfield Posts: 1,755 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    For tricks, wakeboard is half points and knee board is 1/4 points compared to traditional values.
    I'm Ancient. WTH do I know?
    travtitle
  • ToddLToddL Posts: 2,847 Mega Baller
    For NCWSA:
    11.3 A trick ski is defined as having no molded or attached fins with a front binder that is within 9.9 degrees (11 percent) of parallel with the centerline (long) axis of the ski. The width of the ski may not exceed 35% of the length.

    11.4 Skis not conforming to this rule, with the skier in a standing position, may be used but will be scored at 50 % of 1 ski trick points.

    11.5 A skier riding a kneeboard will be allowed, but will be scored at 25% of 1 ski trick points.



    So, 1/4 value for kneeboards, 1/2 value for wakeboards, and full value for tricks.

    For more information, see NCWSA Tournament Rulebook (pdf) at *this link*
    -- The future of skiing depends upon welcoming novice skiers regardless of age to our sport.
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,441 Mega Baller
    @ToddL which i think is funny since there are a whole lot more wakeboarders than kneeboarders, when was the last time you saw a kneeboarder tearing it up?
  • ToddLToddL Posts: 2,847 Mega Baller
    @BraceMaker long time for sure. But think about it... One could do a 720 surface followed by a 360 in the other direction, then the whole S, R, B, F, R, R, and maybe a WB or something. Nice easy kneeboard run of 155 points. It beats another skier on 1 trick ski who does S, R, B, F-fall on trick, and is competitive with a skier on 2 skis doing S, R, B, F, R, R.
    -- The future of skiing depends upon welcoming novice skiers regardless of age to our sport.
    eleeskiHorton
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