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Help on open bow decision

RowdyRowdy Posts: 3 New Baller
I'm making a dreaded transition from my bought new 1990 PS 190 to an open bow or better named open bowel. I'll be on public lakes and my wife's medical condition makes rough boat rides difficult. I'm really only interested in slalom and a little tricking. I ski at [email protected] 28 & 32. My wife in open water. She wants a walk thru and our cap is $20K. She likes the sunsetter LXI's and we're also looking at PS 205's. From what I've found the 92 to 95 205's are good for slalom. Newer MC's seem to be out of our price range. I've had a hard time determining if LXI's and Echelons are appropriate and just what years. I'm open to other makes as well. I realize slalom boats aren't designed for rough water but that's where I'm at. I have loved my 190 on private lakes and has served well on the public lakes. Thanks for any input.

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  • slowslow Posts: 404 Crazy Baller
    edited January 2019
    1999 sport Nautique skis nice ts1 hull walk through bow. Also early 206 Nautiques. Think they started in 2002
  • DWDW Posts: 2,214 Mega Baller
    I suggest you go over and read feedback on Malibu Crew, the Sunsetter LXI gets excellent reviews. Particularly if you are headed to less than perfect water given the higher freeboard. As for slalom wake of an open bow, the LXI is excellent and an Echelon is similar or same as a RLX. Your 190 does set a tall bar for slalom.
  • ALPJrALPJr Posts: 2,253 Mega Baller
    edited January 2019
    The PS 205 from the 90's skis very well. The Gekko open bow direct drive skis very well too. SNOB's and the BU Response LX's are nice too. Should be lots of options in the 20k range.
    Eljaybee
  • Dacon62Dacon62 Posts: 794 Crazy Baller
    ‘99-‘04 Sunsetter LXi will be the boat that is best for the needs you outlined. Great wakes, higher freeboard and very decent ride for a DD.
    6balls
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,437 Mega Baller
    PS205 would be a good choice, there is a big difference between the 1990 prostar (which is the 87-90) and the 91-94 prostar. And the 205 is even bigger/better riding.

    But the 205 really needs the LT1. The base 5.7 is ok in the 190 but it is borderline in terms of power to hull. And people do tend to want$$$ for lt1 205s. I think your money would go further with Malibu than MC 205s. Probably into a year 2000s boat instead of a 90s.
  • ALPJrALPJr Posts: 2,253 Mega Baller
    Good point. MC made the PS205 into the 2000's with the '95-'97 PS hull.
  • LarsLars Posts: 189 Baller
    Where are you located? my ski partner is selling his '94 PS205 with stargazer in MN if that might fit the bill.

  • RednucleusRednucleus Posts: 482 Crazy Baller
    My buddy's '03 SS LXI skis well and has the higher freeboard; doesn't track great in the course but does ok. I had a '95 Sanger DLXII open bow that was a good slalom tug esp over 30mph and exceptional in rougher water; buddy liked the wake for barefooting too
  • RowdyRowdy Posts: 3 New Baller
    I'm in Eastern Kansas. would like info on the Mn boat. I've just checked into the SNOBs, they look encouraging. I remember not liking the early 90's SNOBS that had the stepovers. The sports and 206's look great, always liked the GT 40's.
    slow
  • Ski_DadSki_Dad Posts: 467 Baller
    edited January 2019
    i can tell you that our Sunsetter LXI is better in rough water than a early 90's PS 205. Both are great to ski behind but the Sunsetter has more room and rides nice in chop - i was actually shocked how good it does. This was a huge factor for my wife too. My friend has a Response LXI and they ride just as nice but a little lower to the water.
  • bigskieridahobigskieridaho Posts: 945 Crazy Baller
    I would lean more towards the LXi. The PS205’s are still pretty low. I bought an LXi because it was higher for my kids safety and is pretty good in rough water. Skis great too. It is a 2009 tho. The Wakesetter platform came from the earlier LXi’s
  • LarsLars Posts: 189 Baller
    @Rowdy it's actually a 95, here's the listing from team talk:
    https://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=99147

    his email is [email protected]
  • ghutchghutch Posts: 139 Baller
    I sold my 1990 PS 190 2 years ago for a 2004 Malibu LXI. Thought I would miss my old faithful... nope. Love love love the LXI. More room for the family and have a new PB behind it as well. Rough water is a thing of the past. The wife will love you!
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 6,051 Mega Baller
    Just saw this http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=49822. No connection but they don't show up all that often. I have an 02 Response LX and it has been a great boat.
    Mark Shaffer
    dvskierALPJr
  • WayneWayne Posts: 519 Solid Baller
    As others have mentioned the Sunsetter LXI really seems to fit your needs and price range. I had a 2002 Sunsetter and traded it in for a 2009 Response LXI. If it weren’t for zero off I would have stayed in the older boat.

    Something else that could be enticing since you mentioned a medical condition for your wife. The drivers seat on the Sunsetter has a pivot function, I’m not sure if all years had it. However it can make ingress/egress to the drivers seat much easier.
    6balls
  • skihartskihart Posts: 530 Solid Baller
    Nautique 206
    jjackkrashslow
  • RowdyRowdy Posts: 3 New Baller
    Thanks for all the input guys, I appreciate your knowledge.
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 1,594 Mega Baller
    Sunsetter LXi is your winner if the length isn't an issue. They're on the long side but have the best wakes of any walk-through in your price and year range. I believe the Echelon was available for one year only with the Diamond hull. I think 1998? @Sethro has one and might know more. That would be another great option and would fit into your budget with money to spare for upgrades/updates, but it may be difficult to find one. The non-diamond hull Echelons were no slouches but the wakes are a little harder for slalom.
    boats are like girlfriends you love them however there is another one around the corner - bananaron, July 21, 2020
    dvskier
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,430 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Bu Sunsetter Lxi...really quite remarkable ski wake and handling.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • aspskiaspski Posts: 222 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    +1 for sunsetter. My 2001 SS LXI is an amazing machine.
  • igkyaigkya Posts: 727 Crazy Baller
    Ski 206 or SNOB, in that order.
    slow
  • SethroSethro Posts: 309 Solid Baller
    93-97 Echelon LX would be a true walk-through open bow. The 98 Echelon LX has the step over, playpen style open bow. But @UWSkier is right, the 98 Echelon would be the only model year with the diamond hull....but diamond hull or not it wouldn't be a limiting factor in your skiing.
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