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Does Mid Winter Skiing have an impact on Mid Summer Scores?

HortonHorton Posts: 28,753 Administrator
Does Mid-Winter skiing have an impact on Mid-Summer scores?
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Does Mid Winter Skiing have an impact on Mid Summer Scores? 70 votes

Yes
44%
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No
28%
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Maybe
27%
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  • jcampjcamp Posts: 837 Mega Baller
    Yes
    For me it does anyway. The one winter that I did not take a trip to Florida it took me 3 times as long to get going that summer. I used to believe that winter skiing was just for fun. Now I know it's really important for summer skiing.
  • jayskijayski Posts: 898 Mega Baller
    Yes
    How can you even say no? lol

    Let's see all elite athletes regardless of sport train YEAR ROUND....

    Do snow skiers just train in winter, well ya but they travel to 'winter' when it's summer somewhere else...

    Do golfers just train in summer? Steve Stricker built himself a heated open sided shed to hit balls in the middle of Wisconsin's winters

    Do road cyclist take the winter off? Pretty sure @skidawg's son isn't sitting on the couch in his "off season"

    Do the elite skiers take the winter off???

    But hey, what do they know... :)
    scotchipman
  • ski6jonesski6jones Posts: 1,053 Mega Baller
    No
    Winter skiing just gets me back up to speed more quickly. I suppose to the extent that it increases the amount of time I am working at or near my hardest pass during the summer it's a maybe.
    Carl Addington, Lakes of Katy, Texas
  • RednucleusRednucleus Posts: 375 Crazy Baller
    Maybe
    I am anxious to find out! This is my 1st year that I have skied through winter. I have been out 7 times in January and averaged once a week for Nov & Dec - petty good for W WA. In the past I have stopped Nov thru March, and every year takes me longer to feel good again on the water - so ask me again in June how I'm doing!
    rodecon
  • Maybe
    Just not skiing stinks am I better because of it that I am not so sure. But skiing in Florida in the winter is awesome.
  • WishWish Posts: 7,974 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Yes
    How can it not??
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
    jayski
  • skialexskialex Posts: 1,001 Crazy Baller
    Yes
    I believe it does, if you can continue performing at a similar level as summer, but maybe at easier passes.
    This is what I’m trying to do anyway. Run more openers, focus on technique, form and sometimes slow the boat down on a cold or bad day.
    I also believe that, if performance drops considerably, it could be counterproductive to ski in the winter though. This is when injuries happen and bad habits adopted.
    Having this in mind, I ski through the winter and can ski my best at any time even in May, not like the end of the season as it used to be at my early skiing years.

  • JackQJackQ Posts: 319 Crazy Baller
    edited January 2019
    Yes
    I find it does. One of my best seasons (in relation to my potential) was when I lived in San Diego, and my ski partner (Scott Larson) and I had a routine of skiing once every 7-10 days but only would run back to back passes that we would not miss or stress our selves. We could maintain timing, balance and ski feel while letting the body heal. Then as the season approached just slowly increase frequency and volume.

    When I lived in Maryland and took 4-5 months off, I would take a beating physically in the beginning of the season and would not peak until after the regionals/nationals.
    HortonMISkierZman
  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,753 Administrator
    edited January 2019
    No
    @JackQ Skiing with Gumby (Larson) would be good for anyones score.
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  • GAJ0004GAJ0004 Posts: 1,095 Baller
    Maybe
    If I could I would go to Florida one weekend per month in the winter.. Unfortunately work and lack of money get in the way..
    Gary Janzig Streetsboro Ohio, skis at Lake Latonka, Mercer Pennsylvania slalom,trick,kneeboard,barefoot
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,753 Administrator
    edited January 2019
    No
    It is not super cold or really warm here Dec - March. I do not see a ton of value in the 2 sets every week or two I could get. The water is cold, I am stiff and cold, the ski does not really work right and the glare is terrible.

    meh.
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  • mbabiashmbabiash Posts: 545 Crazy Baller
    No
    @Horton
    I agree. I think if you lived in South Florida it would be different. Or had the means to spend a lot of time down there in the winter. I use the winter to heal up and get strong.
    Some pros in the past took the winter off. I believe Rossi took the winter off.
    WaterSkier12
  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,753 Administrator
    edited January 2019
    No
    @mbabiash I don't know. I don't think Orlando has that many more warm winter days than we do here. If an average it was 5-10 degrees warmer in the winter yes.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,753 Administrator
    No
    this is my week.

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  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 2,695 Mega Baller
    Yes
    Average January high in Orlando is 71 and average low is 52. I can usually count on one hand the number of days on average I miss in any two month period due to cold weather December through March. I'll miss more days due to wind, and I don't miss many days due to wind.

    If nothing else, you can use the Central Florida winter to learn (or at least try) new technique and to try new equipment.
    John Wilkins- Si non pro sanguine quem ludus ne. #iskiconnelly
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  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,989 Mega Baller
    Maybe
    @rayn what is your opinion?
    Mark Shaffer
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,989 Mega Baller
    Maybe
    I think it depends on how often you get to do it and what you are focusing on. If you could ski once a month with coaching it could definitely make a difference. If it is just one trip for a few days I think it is fun but likely doesn't make a significant impact.

    I don't have any real experience with it though.
    Mark Shaffer
  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,975 Infinite Pandas
    No
    The more I ski the worse I get.

    If it's fun, winter ski for sure.

    Winter is for snow skiing.

    Eric
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  • DeanoskiDeanoski Posts: 898 Crazy Baller
    No
    I snow ski in the winter water is so cold it does not help my waterskiing staying in shape and strong is more important IMO
    Zman
  • thagerthager Posts: 4,838 Mega Baller
    Maybe
    Just skiing a few times in the winter I would say no, which is what happens to us northerners.
    A few quality skis with a good instructor at a ski school is a different matter, if I pay attention
    and I take good video and/or notes for use come spring.
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,753 Administrator
    No
    Why would anyone want coaching when they are not skiing close to how they ski in summer?
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  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,989 Mega Baller
    Maybe
    @Horton if you got regular sets in the winter with coaching I think it would help. If you just went for a week or so maybe you pick up one or two things that help but I don't think it would make a significant impact. I agree I do like to get coached when I have been skiing regularly and am skiing at my normal level.
    Mark Shaffer
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  • John BrooksJohn Brooks Posts: 367 Crazy Baller
    Winter is for keeping my wife happy, working on honey do list, building up credits to ski in the summer. Occasional winter sets for fun and keeping in tune my deep water starts.
    WishZman
  • ski6jonesski6jones Posts: 1,053 Mega Baller
    No
    It clearly depends on what conditions. For me it means sneaking a few sets a month when conditions happen to be real nice. If it means skiing all winter in AUS or south FL that's something altogether different.
    Carl Addington, Lakes of Katy, Texas
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,125 Mega Baller
    Considering a nice day to ski up north our water is in the 60s and the air the 70s or low 80s when I've skied in the south on 100 degree days and 90 degree water that's nothing like my normal.

    But I don't think it helps.
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,584 Mega Baller
    Maybe
    Although winter skiing is not important enough to me to bother with a trip most years, I do think that coaching is perfectly valuable even when you're pretty far out of ideal shape. The fundamental things I can improve don't change that much as I get more into ski shape.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • skier2788skier2788 Posts: 761 Crazy Baller
    edited January 2019
    Maybe
    Live in CO and this month will be the first in almost two years that I have not skied at least once. I have traveled south and skied a lot over the last few winters. Does it help with muscle soreness yes. Does it help your early season scores yes has my mid summer scores changed? Nope not a significant amount anyhow. So I would say no mid Winter skiing does not get you better mid summer skiing. Of course it depends on skill level. If you struggle with standing on your ski balanced yes it will help.
    Travis Torley
  • A_BA_B Posts: 4,228 Mega Baller
    Yes
    Hell yes if you are from NW Ohio. Definition of mid-summer for us Northerners is about a month any more. When I was chasing tournaments, I went to Ft Myers every winter and skied there as a pre-season. Top skiers in this area I know go down to FL every month for a long weekend or week. Depends on their jobs and money.
  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,975 Infinite Pandas
    edited January 2019
    No
    Today's ride is why winter skiing doesn't help:

    Tore my wetsuit putting it on. Cold parts aren't something I have to deal with in summer.

    Modified my binding. Still needs more work. Didn't get up. Now I'm really cold.

    The water feels really hard and the ski reacts differently.

    Struggling with the set and pop the handle into a boat guide. Tying that back in is cold.

    In season, the water temperature would be more comfortable for me and suited to my ski. Mistakes wouldn't have physical consequences - like shivering. Tying in a buoy would be a rest/reset opportunity, not the end of the run. And after fixing the binding I'd be able to test it right away instead of waiting for a dry wetsuit. Now I have a crappy run to remember until I ski again.

    Vic did give me a hard time about whining about the cold. It's June water in Canada temperature. If I had to ski this cold, I'd have multiple functional wetsuits. Buoys would be frequently used so less apt to pull out. My equipment would be dialed in. The off season variables would be dealt with.

    Maybe rides like this will make me tougher. But I want to be better, not tougher.

    Eric
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