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2019 Radar Vapor Lithium or Senate Pro Build

jenksskijenksski Posts: 34 Baller
Feed back on the Radar 2019 Vapor Lithium and Senate Pro.

I run the course 32/34mph @15off. Looking to shorten the rope at some stage in the near future.
I've had my 2016 Senate Graphite since new, just wondering if I should upgrade to a 2019 vapor lithium or senate pro.
Cost also comes into things.

All advice/recommendations would be great.

Thanks guys


  • igkyaigkya Posts: 705 Crazy Baller
    Senate Pro will easily be good enough for 34mph into 35-38 off.
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 6,006 Mega Baller
    I would say stick with the Senate shape for now. Unless you are trying to get to 36 mph without seeing you ski I don't think there is a big benefit to going Vapor.
    Mark Shaffer
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 1,437 Mega Baller
    Ski bud and I both went from Vapor Pros to Senates in the past year. We're both 34 mph skiers and both skiing better on the Senates.
  • jenksskijenksski Posts: 34 Baller
    Great to hear guys. It's good to read what fellow skiers are using and what suits them better.
    Like you guys @UWSkier, max speed I'll be skiing at will be 34mph too. Think the Senate is the way to go at some point.
  • jenksskijenksski Posts: 34 Baller
    Not going to consider getting to 36mph as I'm 37 yrs of age and hopefully plan to enter tournaments @Chef23 at some point. So in the age cat, I can only ski at 34mph max.
    I'll look into the senate range again.
  • JordanJordan Posts: 1,221 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I'm pretty sure that @skidawg went from a vapor pro build to a senate pro build. Maybe he can comment further.
  • skidawgskidawg Posts: 3,325 Mega Baller
    Ran [email protected] numerous tournaments last summer on my senate pro at 34mph, it won’t disappoint, especially if you are 185 plus
    Mr. Mom is Horton's favorite movie!
  • JASJAS Posts: 288 Crazy Baller
    @skidawg @[email protected] mph how much will a 67” support
  • skidawgskidawg Posts: 3,325 Mega Baller
    Mr. Mom is Horton's favorite movie!
  • jenksskijenksski Posts: 34 Baller
    Cheers @skidawg and @Jordan
  • jenksskijenksski Posts: 34 Baller
    @skidawg what made you swap between the vapor to senate pro?
  • paul413skipaul413ski Posts: 204 Baller
    @skidawg what fin settings please
  • coach3coach3 Posts: 108 Baller
    I have a 2019 vapor lithium, 66" that is a bit softer and really turns. almost new, $675
  • skidawgskidawg Posts: 3,325 Mega Baller
    I run pretty much stock, touch shallower and tad longer-bindings at 30.5 on 67”
    Mr. Mom is Horton's favorite movie!
  • jskierjskier Posts: 10 Baller
    edited September 2019
    I weigh 205 and ski on the 2020 67 Senate Pro. Love the ski. I also tried several sets on the 2020 Vapor Pro, but skied far more smoothly on the Senate (34mph) into 35 off.
  • paul413skipaul413ski Posts: 204 Baller
    @jskier fin and bindings settings please
  • paul413skipaul413ski Posts: 204 Baller
    @skidawg thank you
  • LobonatorLobonator Posts: 67 Baller
    Hey! @jenksski I just made the switch from a 19 lithium vapor to a 19 Senate pro!!

    I currently ski 15off @ 34mph and have just started working my way into 22off.

    I made the switch because the extra width on the senate pro felt so much more supportive in and out of the turns than the vapor.

    I felt the vapor definitely turned harder and was faster, but only when I got up to 34mph. The senate was miles better when slowed down. Also, I only felt better on the vapor on days were I was at my absolute best. On an average day, I would ski up to the same level on the senate.

    Just my 2 cents.

  • jskierjskier Posts: 10 Baller
    @paul413ski: I am running stock fin and binding settings.
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