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OK, What Am I Really Seeing Here!!!???

I have seen this many times when watching pro events. It looks like at the top of the glide, right before they turn in, they edge out ever so slightly, almost like outside edge pressure, then turn in. The overhead shot really makes it apparent. And, it is definitely an intentional move as it was consistent for this skier at 38. 39, 41. So what do they know/do that they are not telling us.

https://www.facebook.com/sotiris.kyprios/videos/pcb.467203257475639/467202370809061/?type=3&theater
Bob Grizzi

Comments

  • ralral Posts: 1,757 Mega Baller
    I believe that if you video yourself from the same angle, you might see something similar. As we drop the body/hip inside the turn for completing it, the ski reacts going slightly outside before turning in.
    Rodrigo Andai
  • ScottScottScottScott Posts: 915 Crazy Baller
    There was actually an inside turn, then the outside turn. I'm guessing it was a little mini S turn to drain some speed, possibly getting close to turn in and having a little too much speed.
    jercrane
  • skibugskibug Posts: 2,049
    It was executed the same way on three consecutive passes, I just didn't post the other two. I have seen multiple pros doing the same thing. It is very prevalent in Will Asher's turn in, but I have definitely seen others execute what seems to be the same approach. Pull out, glide, outside edge pressure, THEN...turn in.
    Bob Grizzi
  • skialexskialex Posts: 1,004 Crazy Baller
    edited October 2019
    I have the skier next to me now and he says that @ScottScott is right. Trying to keep a tight line.
    DanEScottScott
  • skibugskibug Posts: 2,049
    That is interesting and insightful. So, as most skiers do, when they are too fast in the glide and feel as though they are going to miss their turn in, we fall back on our back foot thinking it will slow us down....but alas...it does not. It just creates more load and poor body position to start the pass. I try to bend my front knee and get over the front, even more, when I am too fast because getting the front of the ski in the water actually slows it down more than rolling back....but...even at that, I still wind up on the back more than I want to be. The small "S" turn is something I will need to try.
    Bob Grizzi
  • DanEDanE Posts: 902 Crazy Baller
    @skialex Having a sk weekend at Drepani are we?
    skialex
  • skialexskialex Posts: 1,004 Crazy Baller
    @DanE Kiafas lake, last tournament of the season, Phillipos is here, and he was sitting next to me when I read the post...
    DanEmfjaegersr
  • ScottScottScottScott Posts: 915 Crazy Baller
    What do I win???
  • adamhcaldwelladamhcaldwell Posts: 630 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    @skibug is right on track. Its just speed management.

    The reality is, the skiers make this move in order to manage speed relative to the boat. That subtle edge away will decelerate the skiers downcourse speed, allowing the boat to pull away a little faster prior to their target point for the turn in for the gate.
    MISkier
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