The European WaterSki Council conducted a large number of reviews of End Course videos

HortonHorton Posts: 31,830 Administrator
edited November 2019 in News & Other Stuff
Source: http://iwwfeatc.com/entries/general/ranking-list-scores-downgraded
Ranking List Scores Downgraded
November 28, 2019
Removal of Scores from Ranking List (November 27, 2019)
The European WaterSki Council conducted a large number of reviews of End Course videos from Tournaments in 2019.
These included:
All tournaments where a 10.75 pass was completed.
All Elite and Titled Tournaments
Other – random – tournaments.
This review found that:
The Boat Path for a number of passes was not in tolerance.
As a result of technical problems in some rounds of some Tournaments it was not possible to supply End Course video to the WaterSki Council.
See full information here (corrected/updated information). ⇐ ⇐ ⇐ ⇐ ⇐ ⇐ Click the blue link for the details

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  • thagerthager Posts: 5,453 Mega Baller
    Yet another conspiracy put forth by the auto drive industry to get waterskiing into the Olympics. Ha!
    Stir vigorously then leave!
    addkerrJody_Sealjayski
  • HortonHorton Posts: 31,830 Administrator
    I have not done a deep dive yet but at least one complete 41 has been thrown out.

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  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 1,751 Mega Baller
    6 @ 35 is harsh. Hopefully that’s enough to get all the BS to stop. When it hurts your ranking to ski at a tournament, you stop skiing that tournament. Or country
  • HortonHorton Posts: 31,830 Administrator
    wonder if affected skiers will get entry fees back

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  • thagerthager Posts: 5,453 Mega Baller
    NBC
    Stir vigorously then leave!
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  • bishop8950bishop8950 Posts: 1,248 Open or Level 9 Skier
    edited December 2019
    I am glad there was a review and follow up. It’s good to see organizing bodies working to ensure the integrity of events and the resulting scores.
    I remember how muck flack @Horton got for questioning scores that summer. I remember posting this, and hope others find that it’s ok to be in camp 2.

    Post July 2018
    Upon learning of extraordinary scores from any event, I expect most peoples responses to fall in one of the following three camps:
    1) Great Job and congrats!
    2) Really? Are we sure?
    3) No way, I don’t buy it, didn’t happen, I don't need evidence
    Of course we all have the right to choose our camp. Debating which camp is the right one is futile. The part about this that bothers me is those that insist 1) is right 2) is rude and 3) is just flat out wrong. I am in camp 2) and think about it like this:
    Were the scores possible? Yes.
    Were the scores exceptional? Yes.
    Did they happen in sanctioned events? Yes.
    Is it still possible something was amiss? Yes.
    Are the scores valid unless proven otherwise? Absolutely.
    Is it reasonable to question the exceptional results? I think yes.
    This said, we should be carefull from keyboards thousands of miles away and leave it to the hardworking officials of the events. But, if we as members of the community don’t maintain a culture where its ok to question results, the integrity of scores and records will be at risk.
    aupatkingThan_Boganski6jones
  • Bill22Bill22 Posts: 1,766 Mega Baller
    edited December 2019
    Is this going to change the Elite rankings list?

    I thought the list was finalized each October but at http://www.iwsfranking.com/ I didn't see a 2019 list. I am talking about the the list used for Masters invitations.
  • HortonHorton Posts: 31,830 Administrator
    @bill22
    That is a super interesting question.
    I think at least 2 of the 11 events that had scores pulled had Elite points.

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  • drewdrew Posts: 108 Open or Level 9 Skier
    This is a very difficult issue--as there are many critical tolerances that combine for a legitimate score. And driving is certainly one of them--but lets not forget rope lengths, the survey, buoy sizes, and boat times. It certainly takes leadership for the European Council to review and apply the sanctions that they have... and there will always be some controversy.
    The boat path is extremely critical at the highest levels as the margins for error are so small. This is due to the delta between (deficiency of) the rope length and the width of the course. A wider slalom course would (albeit slightly) reduce the role of the boat path, and skier height--back to the comments in the 42 off thread:

    https://www.ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/21136/42-off/p2
    Than_Boganjayski
  • HortonHorton Posts: 31,830 Administrator
    Digging deeper into this for the next DFC. Holy Shit 500+/- scores have been pulled or down graded.

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