Razor vs. D3

6balls6balls Posts: 5,040 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
edited October 2010 in Technique & Theory
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Sounded like tourney lakes may be crowded this a.m., and only one club boat available this time of year...so bring my boat and promptly forget my ski, suit, gloves...everything.  I'm on a D3 Nomad RCX, my brother a new Razor...so I use his ski.  Fast in the pull, crazy early at 28 and 32, 35 takes SO little pull to swing wide.  38 was a bruiser...just couldn't find the turns...did a complete ski-to-ski front-flip when it stopped on me at 3 ball.  It was more difficult for me to turn it properly...feels like sweet spot is much smaller.  If I hit it right...amazing, but was hard for me to be there every time so I was sloppier at 35 but still running them.  Definitely felt like a stiffer, higher strung ski that if skied right is probably amazing.  Didn't seem I could scramble it as well or boss it around....but I'm obviously not used to the ski, either.
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Unanswerable question (please try): With some time would I smoke the razor?  Does the D3 Z7 ST create this kind of effortless speed w/more predictable turns and big D3 sweet spot?  Should I save my money and keep running the RCX? (ran 5 at 38 on it yesterday...though in very different fashion than Razor today).  Sure wish I had a Z7 ST demo to try B4 season end...and some more time on the Razor.  My bro smoked piles of 35's today and his only attempt at 38 was gold...we ski fairly similar style, though he has a quieter upper body. 
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Any thoughts appreciated...I have been on KD or D3 product since '92.     
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Dave Ross--die cancer die

Comments

  • thagerthager Posts: 4,445 Mega Baller
    DR, You've got access to it and it's end of season. Spend more time on it. Maybe Jim will let you mess with the fin a bit. Although your styles are similar they are not exactly the same.Tweak a little. Make your decision later
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • Ed_ObermeierEd_Obermeier Posts: 1,339 Crazy Baller
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    It's my personal impression that the more demanding, higher end skis are better at extreme shortline but they require you to be much better at proper body position, require a more refined technique etc.  Since anyone running 38 and up has refined their skiing to that ability level it makes sense that they are more likely to be on those skis (Goode, Warp, Razor i.e.) that will give them that kind of performance.  More "forgiving" skis (X7, Strada, A1 etc) can be skied to those levels but IMO likely require a bit more input at extreme shortline.  Maybe you extreme shortline guys can chime in on whether I'm correct on that or not?  In other words if you do things correctly they'll reward that in spades but if you're less than correct in body position, execution etc they're more likely to punish you for your mistakes.
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    Since the vast majority of the performance slalom ski market is likely in the 22 - 35 off range more of the high end skis these days are designed to cater to that group.  More forgiving of less than perfect execution etc while still having the ability to go to i.e. 41 off if you're capable of that.  But really more designed for 22 - 35 off skiers who aren't quite there yet in terms of how correctly they (we) do things and to whom the forgiveness factor is a big selling point.  I may be way off base on all of that but that is my impression anyway.
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    Ed
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    Ed Obermeier - owner, EZ-Slalom Course Systems
    www.ez-slalom.com
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,040 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
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    Thanks much!
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    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • scokescoke Posts: 644 Solid Baller
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    guess you don't have video of the 38 3 ball front flips?? <img src="/vanillaforum/js/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif" border="0" alt="Tongue out" title="Tongue out" />
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  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,040 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
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    No video, but credible witness(bro Jim). 
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    Dave Ross--die cancer die

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